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Sean Murray is the founder of deBanked (2010), deBanked Connect & Broker Fair (2018), and DailyFunder (2012).

Murray entered the nonbank finance industry in 2006 and has a Bachelors of Science in Accounting & Finance from University of Delaware. He is widely known for his extensive reporting on the merchant cash advance industry and fintech.




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Coming Soon: Domain Names as Loan Collateral
By: Sean Murray

loans against domain namesIt's called a DeFi Cash Advance, a collateralized loan with 1-30 day terms. It's just one of many products created by Teller, a peer-to-peer lending platform that relies on smart contracts to facilitate the transactions. The key word is "collateralized" because the blockchain-tethered asset doesn't necessarily have to be crypto-native per se anymore. Virtually any business owner with a website can offer up its online domain name as collateral for a loan thanks to rapidly developing blockchain technology. "Essentially what Teller is at the core is basically like an OTC desk as a way to think about it because Teller doesn't do any lending," said Kieran Daniels, Growth at Teller. Instead it's done by peers which have historically used the platform to lend against very esoteric crypto assets that traditional commercial finance folks would probably roll their eyes at. But all that's poised to change ever since a Silicon Valley-based startup called Namefi recently found a way to bridge regular old internet domain names to the ethereum blockchain. Namefi's tech can turn any .com or similar internet domain into a real life NFT without any disruption to the underlying website it hosts. And once ownership of the domain name is governed by whomever owns the NFT, then voilą, it can be offered up as collateral for a loan on the blockchain. The advantage of doing something this way is the efficiency in which it transforms a widely recognized digital asset, a domain name, into a liquid piece of collateral for a loan. For example, a loan can be made instantly just with a smart contract, it can be transferred to escrow (while still working the whole time) instantly, and also transferred to the lender in the instance of a default without any headache or hassle. The hard part, if one could even consider it hard, is that in order for the domain name to turn into an NFT, it has to be transferred from the owner's current domain name registrar to the one operated by Namefi. This can be accomplished in less than an hour. It's the exact same process as if one were to transfer a domain name from say Godaddy to Namecheap. Namefi does all the techy stuff that turns it into an NFT and the user can still manage their regular DNS settings via Namefi. As mentioned previously, Teller is accustomed to other assets on its platform, things like "meme coins" and digital artwork, some of which use a technological token standard called ERC-721. That's kind of where I ironically enter the story because I noticed that Namefi relied on the same standard when turning domain names into NFTs. And so without informing either Namefi or Teller of what I was up to, I turned a domain name that I owned into an NFT via Namefi and then used the Teller platform to set up and execute a loan transaction, resulting in a self-aggrandizing press release this past January about how smart I was for possibly doing the first domain name loan over ethereum in the world. It was noticed. The outcome is that Namefi and Teller have been talking to each other since. On February 28, the two took to social media to announce a partnership.
"We're fully leaning into it," said Daniels to deBanked, "we did a spaces [on X] with Namefi." "I think we're just really bridging that gap for a lot of people right now and actually making that connection to say that 'hey, NFTs aren't just JPEGs, they aren't just digital identity, they can have other forms of utility,'" said Alexander Walker, Ambassador at Namefi. "And there's millions of people out there with domain names already." And that's sort of the point. Everyone already understands domain names as a digital asset. The tech has just finally caught up to do that much more with them. The typical challenge of any upstart peer-to-peer lending platform, however, is liquidity. As some readers may recall in the very early years of LendingClub and Prosper, hopeful borrowers would languish on those platforms while they waited for individual retail investors to pool together enough money to actually fund the full value of the loans. Teller has already come up with a solution for other assets it understands well, standing liquidity pools funded by peers or investors that will automatically lend against assets it recognizes. There would be a similar goal with certain categories of domain names. "When you go to Teller, you'll see Pokemon on ENS or 999s or certain collections of NFTs," said Daniels of Teller. "So those are the more popular NFTs and so what Teller has done is created standing offers for those. So again, Teller isn't the LP, but LPs can come in and add to that pool. And anyone with one of those categories can instantly get a loan or instantly borrow against that." Peer to PeerEnter .coms into the fray. "The bigger vision is right now when you go to Teller you see Tokens, NFTs, and ENS," Daniels said. "We want to change that to Tokens, NFTs, and Domains. [...] Once we integrate that and once we get set up, then we can really lean into it and grow it from there." The market is still mostly unaware that this technology is here. Early interest seems to be coming from domain name investors in particular, those that think about the standalone speculative or resale value of a domain name independent of any active business use. Valuations on that basis might be too small or risky for a commercial lender to get excited about. The real opportunity then perhaps is domain names that are actively in use where the corresponding website is driving revenue for a business or even generating it on site. In the digital era, it'd be reasonable to say that many businesses depend on their web traffic to generate hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars a year in annual sales. A domain name that is being used to make that all happen is theoretically worth much more than an unused clever sounding domain name. It's also the sort of collateral that could be monetized by a lender familiar with the market of its borrower. With 360 million domain names registered worldwide as of Q3 2023, there's a large market at stake. "Domains don't have that liquidity as of yet," said Walker of Namefi. "But we're currently building out that infrastructure. And that's what makes me really excited."
Backdooring Deals? You're a Loser
By: Sean Murray

backdoor"Backdooring is just for losers," says Thomas Chillemi, founder and CEO of Harvest Lending, a small business finance brokerage. "Like I think anybody who participates in it is just a loser." Backdooring, as colorfully referenced by Chillemi, is a colloquial term used widely across the industry to describe how leads, apps, or entire deals are stolen from brokers. The deal gets submitted through the front door and then leaks out the back door to an unauthorized third party. Chillemi sums it up as such: "backdooring is 'I secured a lead, I secured a file in some way, shape or form. And that merchant is being contacted through my efforts somehow that I didn't give permission to.'" It's a scenario that's been top of mind at brokerages across the country for years, and it's a problem that's getting worse, according to sources that deBanked has spoken with. "I would say backdooring is the worst of the worst right now," says Josh Feinberg, CEO of Everlasting Capital, another small business finance brokerage. "I think as far as rogue employees go at direct funders, it's the worst it's ever been." Feinberg's reference to "rogue employees" is just one such way that backdooring can occur. It can be an employee of a lender, management of a lender, an employee of the broker, a broker pretending to be a lender, and possibly in a worst case scenario even a cyber intruder like a hacker. Sometimes it's a clandestine operation structured in a way to make it difficult for the broker to detect that their client's file has been intercepted while other times backdooring is such a normalized function of one's business that accepting a submission from a broker and then shopping it elsewhere to circumvent them is practically firm policy and done on an automated basis. Some of the more seasoned brokers who are used to being on guard with what a lender intends to do with their file advise that their peers approach any proposed ISO agreement with a fine-tooth comb to establish what is or isn't allowed. After all, if the agreement grants the lender the contractual right to backdoor the broker, is it really backdooring? Others say the contract's language can only carry the relationship so far. "I only try to board up with people that seem to be good actors, but then you never know what an employee might do, right?" says Chillemi. dumspter divingWhether it's a jaded underwriter, a slick admin, or Bob in accounting who never says a peep, it only takes one individual to set eyes on an application to be in a position to transfer the information elsewhere for personal gain. deBanked examined this subject in years past and learned the lengths that rogue employees go through to extract deal data. For example, when one funding company blocked the ability to transfer data outside of the company's network, an employee took photos of their screen with their phone. When the employer banned cell phones in the office in response, one employee wrote down deal data on scrap paper, threw it in the garbage, and then returned to the office building after hours to try and fish it out of the dumpster. The absurdity of that visual alone implies there must be big bucks in the backdoor business. Indeed, according to screenshots forwarded to deBanked of what appears to be an underground Whatsapp group, backdoored deals are currently being marketed for sale with bank statements, social security numbers, and all. A single fresh backdoored file can go for $20 - $35 or buyers can purchase them in bulk, up to 600 at a time, for a discounted price. "Fresh Packs" apparently fetch more because the applicants may not have signed a funding contract with anyone yet and are theoretically more warm to doing a deal even if they're not quite sure how the company approaching them got all of their information. And it's this speed and efficiency of the backdooring happening that's making things extra difficult for brokers. For Chillemi, he says the backdooring in earlier years would reveal itself when someone would try to call his customer a month or two after the fact. "Like even if it happened after two or three days that felt really fast," he says. "But now, you're talking hours, like these people have it within hours and I just don't even know how anybody could really compete with that." data securityBrokers, ready for this, developed a tactic that is still used today as a front-line defense mechanism. They replace the applicant's email address and phone number on the application with ones they control, so that when an attempted backdooring occurs, the caller is unsuspectingly contacting the very broker they are trying to steal the deal from. The result? They're caught red-handed. "I got a text from somebody claiming that they worked at Fidelity," says Chillemi. "They texted me a picture of my own application. They're so brazen that they're just texting the merchant… they thought they were texting the merchant." Not only was the Fidelity component a deception, but the mistake of texting the broker who was just waiting to catch them is causing the backdoor shops to evolve. New backdoor callers know the application contact info might be booby-trapped so they're now skip-tracing the applicants on an automated basis and getting their real contact info and using that instead. For Feinberg at Everlasting, he says the method of substituting out an applicant's contact info is not something they do, though he's aware that it's done by others in the working capital space. He says that it's not something that would really be tolerated in the equipment finance side of the industry which operates much cleaner with no backdooring, at least in his experience. The lenders there hate it and everyone involved needs to be able to communicate with the customer. It's just the working capital deals where all these problems happen. "It's defeating, and it's a very very difficult thing to diagnose," Feinberg says. He adds that the feeling is worse when realizing that it has happened even when submitting to top tier A players. There's no delay either. He says that the customer can be called literally within the same hour of submitting it, which puts them in an awkward position. "They lose complete trust in our company," Feinberg says. "And it makes it very difficult to be able to work with these clients." picking up the phoneAccording to Chillemi of Harvest, "Most of the time what happens is the merchant calls us and says, 'Now I'm getting all these phone calls people saying they're working with you,' and it's just kind of like an embarrassment of where I've got to explain to this person that somebody at these companies leaked their information that wasn't supposed to. And it just makes me look bad, right?" Another owner of a large broker shop, who did not authorize his name to be used in connection with this story, says that while everyone's mind immediately goes to the lending companies, the most common source of backdoored deals is actually from rogue employees inside the brokerages themselves. Whether it's the rep backdooring their own deals to circumvent splitting commissions with their employer or someone else in the chain that has access to the data, his advice was that brokerage owners first need to look extremely inwards before pointing fingers outwards. Investing in proper security is critical, he says. But assuming that base is covered, Feinberg says that brokers should do a background check on the lenders and interview them like a lender would interview a merchant for funding. "We absolutely look into the agreements that we sign but a lot of due diligence happens just on the first phone call," Feinberg says. "Just on the first phone call we can judge whether this is going to be a real lender…" A key question to ask, he says, is how compensation works. And that's because an individual lender will have a defined fixed system whereas a backdoor broker pretending to be a lender is subject to the different compensation structures they have at all their different lending relationships and would not be able to guarantee any fixed commission pricing to the broker they are trying to trick into submitting, that is if they are intending to pay them out a percentage of the deals they backdoor them on in the first place. "Trust is the number one thing with us," Feinberg says. "And if trust gets broken, then it's over. So we really try to work with people that we know personally. And the way that we've met people personally is through trade shows, specifically deBanked events." Chillemi argues that someone who tries to make their living off of backdoored deals are not salespeople at all, but as he reiterates, losers. "[the backdoor broker] knows he's a liar," says Chillemi, "He's calling these people saying he's an underwriter… he's not strong, he's not learning. They don't know what they're doing. They're putting the lenders at risk."



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Sean Murray to Moderate Best Practices Panel at New York Institute of Credit Event

October 15, 2018
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deBanked President and Chief Editor Sean Murray will be moderating a best practices panel at the New York Institute of Credit Event on October 16th. The event is also supported by the IFA Northeast, the Alternative Finance Bar Association, and deBanked.

The subject of the panel is to discuss best practices when dealing with different financial firms, namely ABL, factoring, and merchant cash advance. The panelists are:

  • Bill Gallagher, President, CFG Merchant Solutions
  • Bill Elliott, President, First Business Growth Funding
  • Raffi Azadian, CEO, Change Capital
  • Dean Landis, President, Entrepreneur Growth Capital

Merchant Cash Advance APR Debate (Sean Murray v Ami Kassar)

November 24, 2015
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The other day, Inc. writer and loan broker Ami Kassar took some time out of his day from taking photos of his shadow in the park to engage me in a debate about the use of APRs in future receivable purchase transactions. He was apparently very bothered by my analysis of Square’s merchant cash advance program which has transacted more than $300 million to date.

To clarify my position here, I am indeed in favor of transparency, so long as it’s intelligent transparency. Coming up with phony percentages based on estimates and applying them to transactions where they don’t make sense is not transparency. Similarly, advocating that merchant cash advance companies and lenders alike move away from a dollar-for-dollar pricing model to one that requires the seller or borrower to do math or hire an accountant is also not transparency.

Even a Federal Reserve study that attempted to prove merchant cash advances were confusing inadvertently proved that APRs in general were confusing. If someone doesn’t know how to calculate an APR, then it’s unreasonable to assume that they could work backwards from an APR to determine the dollar-for-dollar cost of capital. In effect, APR is a surefire way to mask the trust cost despite arguments to the contrary.

My unplanned debate with Ami Kassar on twitter is below:

Sorry Ami. The only thing unclear is your argument.

Murray Loses Election for ENS Foundation Directorship

May 21, 2023
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BlockchaindeBanked president Sean Murray was one of two nominees earlier this month for an open director position of the ENS Foundation. ENS stands for the Ethereum Name Service, a protocol that allows users to substitute human readable usernames for long hexadecimal strings commonly associated with crypto addresses.

Instead of one’s address looking like this: 0x64233eAa064ef0d54ff1A963933D0D2d46ab5829, it could be debanked.eth or debanked.com or sean.debanked.com or some other domain name owned by the user.

Murray has been an advocate for ENS names as a form of web-based identity. He was one of the first 500 people in the world to use a .com address as an ENS name and the first in the world to turn a .com address into an NFT on mainnet using the official ENS Namewrapper contract. debanked.com, for example, is not only a website address, but also a crypto address and an NFT. Murray has been studying crypto since 2014 and deployed his first deBanked smart contract to ethereum in 2021.

Murray lost the election in a blowout but has expressed that his candidacy led to some positive changes in the ENS ecosystem. The ENS Foundation represents the technology’s official DAO. Murray’s competition was more qualified than he was for the role. The victor, Alex Van de Sande, helped launch ethereum, launched the first Ethereum wallet and Web3 Browser, and was a co-founder of ENS.

“I anticipate there eventually being some crossover between the traditional financial system and blockchain technology,” Murray said. “A username system would be an integral part of that. I’m not into speculating on coins or anything of that nature.”

Don’t Just Say You Can Do SBA Loans, Learn How to Broker Them

April 6, 2024
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SBA Loan“As in anything else, once you master the learning curve, you’re fine,” says Bob Coleman. “The reason why SBA lending is difficult is you may not know the rules.”

And that’s where Coleman comes in, a former lender turned news source and educator of SBA loan brokers, he offers his own online course called the Certified SBA Loan Broker Training, which is open to commercial loan brokers of various backgrounds that want to master SBA. Without training, brokers unaccustomed to the process can get lost and bogged down if they try to figure it out on the fly.

For instance, “If you drop something off at your lender, the lender is going to come back with 15 things and you may not know exactly what they want,” Coleman says, “and therefore the difficulty arises when you don’t know exactly what the lender wants and you ask the borrower and then it becomes a long drawn out affair.”

It’s precisely this scenario that scares brokers accustomed to light paperwork and perks like 2-hour approvals in the short-term working capital space from even attempting to try their hand at SBA. But even the merchants can be scared off by a longer more arduous process. Coleman also acknowledges that there has been a collective awakening throughout the mainstream commercial finance space that speed is on every business owner’s mind.

But speed can be a matter of experience and just knowing what to do, how to do it, and who to do it with. Besides, in an era of creeping one-stop-loan-shops that can do it all, it will become increasingly difficult for today’s broker to tell a customer that they don’t really know how to do the harder stuff and to always default to a short term loan or MCA when the broker next door is ready to put an SBA loan together if that’s the best course of action. As most brokers are aware, many short-term working capital brokers also offer equipment financing at the very least and vice-versa these days.

money“A successful broker is one that cultivates a relationship with a few lenders,” Coleman says. “A broker is more entrepreneurial [versus an in-house business development officer], has access to a number of different products, and they work with a core level of lenders or funders.”

And that all comes down to training, which Coleman’s course offers for SBA.

“The loan broker course is geared for loan brokers who have a basic knowledge of commercial lending,” Coleman says. “We’re not going to go through and tell them how to analyze an income statement or a balance sheet, but we are going to tell them what SBA lenders are looking for.”

Coleman’s course is designed to take 12 weeks, though with it being online those enrolled can move at their own pace. As a benefit those taking the course get access to Coleman himself and can ask him questions and can join his weekly live show. There’s also the Coleman Roundtable where brokers and lenders dial in together once a week so that lenders can provide updates on what type of deals they’re looking for.

“It’s always a moving target of what the lenders will do,” Coleman says, “As we go through economic cycles, lenders tweak their credit boxes of what they want, and the brokers have to understand the lenders have a tremendous amount of pressure from a lot of stakeholders on how they want their portfolios to look.”

To that end, any broker that maybe tried their hand on an SBA loan in the past and walked away discouraged shouldn’t give up on it entirely.

“SBA is constantly changing,” Coleman says. “If you had a bad experience three or four years ago with a particular lender, forget about it and find out what’s new.”


Bob Coleman will be speaking alongside Sean Murray at Broker Fair New York City on May 20 if you’d like the opportunity to learn more from him and pick his brain in person.

A New Commercial Financing Expo Is Coming to Las Vegas This Fall

March 4, 2024
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Las VegasComing to Las Vegas in 2024, an inaugural commercial financing expo powered by deBanked in collaboration with the Small Business Finance Association will be held in the Fall. The conference will bring together the leading lenders, funders, and brokers from across the spectrum of commercial finance, leasing, mortgage, and revenue-based capital products. The event will replace deBanked’s annual CONNECT event that has typically taken place in San Diego.

“We’ve had our eye on Las Vegas for a long time and resolved last September that we’d aim to go there next,” said deBanked founder Sean Murray. “We’ve built up years of experience through running the annual Broker Fair conference in New York City and this event will have everything from across the commercial finance and small business finance industries.”

“deBanked is a powerful industry leader and we look forward to working with them to produce a high level event where the commercial finance industry can learn and network together,” said SBFA Executive Director Steve Denis.

The deBanked team has produced nearly two dozen events since 2017. Additional information will be made available soon. For inquiries, email events@debanked.com or call 917-722-0808.

First Ever Domain Name Loan by Smart Contract Was Executed on Ethereum

January 27, 2024
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EthereumHistory was made on Saturday when the first ever loan against a domain name was executed with a smart contract on the Ethereum blockchain. The significance is that the success marks the birth of a new asset class that can be leveraged to unlock capital for business owners or domain name investors in an expeditious and secure manner.

deBanked founder Sean Murray was the executor of the transaction. The process involved tokenizing a domain name (domainfi.net) into an NFT and then offering that NFT as collateral on an NFT loan marketplace. When a loan was executed on the platform with a smart contract, the domain name was automatically placed into an ethereum address to be held as escrow. If the borrower were to default on the loan, the smart contract would automatically release the domain name to the lender, who would now have full control of it.

The process involved two parties, the tokenizing registrar and the NFT loan marketplace. The loan, which was consummated for proof of concept, carried a 10% APY and a 7-day term. It took less than 20 minutes combined to complete the tokenization and loan execution process.

“I was guessing that this capability might still be another year away and I had not even dreamed that I would be the very first one to execute this type of loan,” said Murray. ā€œFollowing this space closely probably contributed to that stroke of luck. There is still time until this is ready to be a consumer-facing product in the marketplace, but the tech already exists and transactions of this nature are already viable. It will be fascinating to watch.”

About deBanked

deBanked was launched in 2010. For questions or inquiries email info@debanked.com and call 212-220-9084.

Hundreds of Brokers Registered for deBanked CONNECT MIAMI

January 9, 2024
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deBanked CONNECT MIAMI 2024MIAMI BEACH ā€“ Hundreds of small business finance brokers are registered for this year’s deBanked CONNECT MIAMI. Taking place on Thursday, January 11 at the Miami Beach Convention Center, the event’s modified format includes the first-ever Broker Battleā„¢ with a $5,000 grand prize to the winning broker, on top of an all-kosher food experience. That’s in addition to a featured presentation from David Goldin, the first-of-its-kind Broker Brilliance education session, tech demos, networking, and cocktails. Bitty Advance is the Title Sponsor.

“This is our sixth event in Miami,” said conference founder and deBanked President Sean Murray. “I think kicking off a new year is as good a time as ever to reinvent yourself and change things up. I’m really excited for this show and I think 2024 is going to be a truly unique year.”

Registration opens at 1pm on Thursday and the event culminates with the Broker Battle at 5:10pm. That will lead right into the cocktail networking reception.

About deBanked CONNECT Miami

deBanked CONNECT events are operated by Foinse, LLC. Foinse, LLC is an events company based in Brooklyn, NY. To learn more visit: http://www.debankedmiami.com. For inquiries, email events@debanked.com.

deBanked CONNECT San Diego Reviewed

September 26, 2023
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debanked connect san diegodeBanked CONNECT marked its return to San Diego at the Wyndham Bayside Hotel directly across from the waterfront on N Harbor Drive, a prime location accompanied by many museums, restaurants, and a calming view of North San Diego Bay. The timing of the event paired perfectly with the Miramar Air Show, Hispanic Heritage Weekend, Adams Avenue Street Fair and other festivities taking place that weekend.

deBankedā€™s Chief Editor, Sean Murray opened the event by noting that California’s Commercial Financing Disclosure Bill thankfully didn’t cause the world to end. He also highlighted that California is the industry’s third-largest market, following Miami and New York. To his surprise, many attendees were experiencing a deBanked event for the first time.

Justin Thompson, CRO at National Funding, said that prior to deBanked’s expansion to the locale in 2018/2019 that most of the events there had to do with merchant processing, SBA loans, or equipment financing and that the 2019 show set the tone for more events to be brought out to the Southern California.

ā€œIt was great, I think it was appropriate to have something out here on the West Coast ā€“ probably in terms of the count of brokers is more on the East Coast ā€“there’s also some pretty large brokers on the West Coast and I think it was real good opportunity to have everybody here on the West Coast that maybe couldnā€™t have gone to the East Coast to do stuff,ā€ said Thompson. ā€œThere’s some new faces and some new opportunities to meet the people and build new relationships.ā€

deBanked CONNECT San Diego showcased tech demos from Ocrolus, Onxy IQ, and Dragin. Guest speaker Tye Hanna, CEO of Titan Asset Management, touched on what MCA portfolios are worth and how to value them. And Brock Blake, CEO of Lendio, drew in a large crowd discussing tech platforms that have entered the lending space and the necessity of innovation.

The panels began with the ā€˜Legal and Regulatory Developmentsā€™ with David Austin, Marshall Goldberg, and Scott Pearson and concluded with ā€˜Navigating the New Normalā€™ featuring Patrick Manning, Benjamin Flowers, Josh Jones, and Shelley Shivers.

At the end, attendees gathered on the outdoor terrace to unwind and continue the networking. The sunset met guests exactly as it began, a beautiful way to conclude the day. deBanked CONNECT Miami was also announced and set to be for January 11, 2024.

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07-03-2019

Inform More, Earn More...
dale laszig has written a terrific article (http://www.greensheet.com/emagazine.php?article_id=6033) on the green sheet (http://www.greensheet.com/) a...




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07-03-2019

Inform More, Earn More...
sean murray, president and chief editor at*debanked, makes great points about education for sales agents being paramount to their success.*if knowledgeable about the diversity of financial products, and their distinctions from one another, agents can*help customers make informed decisions, which allows them to close more deals., , *, , customers trust in the person, brand or company they are working with is...
06-07-2019

How in the WORLD!!!??...
sean murray over at debanked to do a nice piece for his magazine debanked., , this is just getting crazy!!! still waiting for approval/denial and merchant has been called 4 times already.... wwooowwwwww!!!!...
01-28-2019

Quicksilver...
sean murray would have stepped in to stop this but i guess doesnt want to hurt his bottom line...