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Upstart: Lending’s oldest truism is not true for us

September 10, 2026
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“At AI Day last year, I told you that lending’s oldest truism assumes the technology stays constant: that you can’t have growth, strong credit performance, and profitability all at once,” said Upstart CEO Paul Gu during the Q2 earnings call. “That’s not the case for Upstart. This quarter, we delivered all three: we grew, our credit performed, and we expanded margins. We didn’t have to trade one for another, and that combination — not any single metric in isolation — is the clearest evidence that our AI advantage is real and compounding.”

Upstart offers personal loans, auto loans, and home loans. The company said that it would double down in the second half of the year with the understanding that its “core personal loan” business is its “superpower” with “unusually strong margins.”

Upstart also received conditional approved by the OCC to establish its own bank. The company said that “the charter would allow Upstart to reduce operational, regulatory, and financial complexity for itself as well as for its third-party capital partners.”

Upstart is one of many fintechs in the process of applying for a bank charter or acquiring a chartered bank.

The Fatal Flaw in Upstart CEO’s Vision for AI Underwriting in MCA: A response to Upstart’s view of AI in underwriting

June 12, 2026
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David Roitblat is the founder and CEO of AI My Advance and Better Accounting Solutions, a leading authority in specialized accounting for merchant cash advance companies alongside our new innovative CRM designed to solve the critical gaps holding the industry back. To connect or schedule a call about working with AI My Advance or Better Accounting Solutions, email David@betteraccountingsolutions.com

As deBanked reported (March 23, 2026), Paul Gu, CEO of Upstart, said something on his company’s Q4 earnings call that has been quoted approvingly in a few corners of the credit world. It deserves a careful read because some important points are incorrect when it comes to the MCA industry.

Gu’s argument, as reported, runs roughly like this. Humans have never been very good at precisely underwriting loans and projecting cash flows. That problem has always been a math problem, not a language problem. The recent wave of AI, the LLMs from Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google, is good at the things humans are naturally good at: reading documents, navigating messy paperwork, perfecting liens, and checking property records. Therefore, in Gu’s framing, LLMs are well-suited to the operational layer around lending but not to the underwriting decision itself. He puts it bluntly: “No matter how many humans you have, you don’t want that army of humans underwriting loans for you.”

The deBanked piece does a real service by reporting it. But the framing carries a serious blind spot. It implies that AI underwriting is essentially a solved problem, owned by structured-data shops like Upstart, and that the broader conversation about AI in lending is mostly noise. For consumer credit, that may be true. For the MCA industry, it is not, and treating it as if it were misses the actual point.

Begin with the parts of his argument that hold up. Underwriting, at its core, is a probability problem. Given a set of inputs, what is the likelihood of repayment, and what is the distribution of outcomes if it fails? That has always been the question, and Gu’s phrasing is exactly right: “That’s something that has always been solved as a big math problem.”

He is also correct in saying that LLMs, in their current form, are not the natural tool for that math problem. They are extraordinary at reading, summarizing, classifying, extracting, and reasoning over language. They are not, on their own, the right architecture for portfolio-level probability estimation. The deBanked piece links to Upstart’s own track record, 91% of their loans now fully automated, and that result was not built on top of GPT-class models. It was built on years of structured-data modeling. Gu is entitled to point that out.

He is also right that the most obvious near-term wins from LLMs in lending are operational: HELOC processing, lien perfection, document review, title work. Anywhere a human currently spends hours reading and routing paper, an LLM can do meaningful work. His framing of those as “the perfect problem to throw sort of LLM-style AI against” is well put.

The problem is the conclusion the framing pushes the reader toward: that because the underwriting decision is a math problem, and because the new wave of AI is mostly a language problem, the conversation about AI in underwriting is largely settled. That conclusion translates poorly from Upstart’s world to ours, and it does so in a way that matters.

Upstart underwrites consumer installment loans. The data is clean, the durations are predictable, the borrowers are individuals with credit files, and the question being asked is essentially: will this person make 36 or 60 fixed monthly payments on time. That is, as Gu says, a big math problem with a long history of structured inputs.

MCA underwriting is not that problem. It is a different problem with a different shape, and the difference is not cosmetic.

An MCA underwriter is not pricing a fixed-term installment loan to an individual with a credit file. They are pricing a daily or weekly remittance against a small business’s future receivables, over a horizon measured in months, where the inputs are messy by nature: bank statements with idiosyncratic categorization, industry-specific seasonality, owner behavior that does not show up in a FICO score, stacking risk, processor changes, lease events, partner disputes, and dozens of other signals that live in unstructured form. The decision is not made once and then monitored passively. It is revisited continuously as the merchant’s behavior evolves over the life of the advance.

That is a different beast, and the math that solves consumer credit does not, on its own, solve it. The part of AI that Gu sets aside, the language part, the unstructured-data part, the continuously-observing part, is precisely the part that matters for the underwriting decision itself in MCA, not just the paperwork around it. Setting it aside is not a clean theoretical move. It is a category error when applied to this industry.

In modern MCA operations, the most important thing AI is doing is not the initial decision. It is what happens after the capital goes out.

Underwriting does not end at approval. Our new and up-and-coming platform continues to ingest merchant behavior after funding. It links directly to merchant bank accounts, monitors post-funding activity, tracks changes in deposit patterns and remittance behavior, and detects patterns across defaulted deals. It does not simply record that a deal failed. It identifies what those failed deals had in common. That information does not sit in a static report. It feeds directly back into how new deals are evaluated.

That is underwriting, too. It is just underwriting, not the single-moment, single-file decision the term usually evokes. It is a feedback system: the decision at funding is the first input, the merchant’s subsequent behavior is the second, and the model that prices the next deal is the third.

Gu’s framing treats underwriting as the moment of decision. In MCA, the moment of decision is a single frame in a longer film. The frames that matter most are often the ones after funding, where a human underwriter cannot realistically hold the pattern in mind across hundreds or thousands of merchants, while a system can. Any framework that ignores those frames does not describe MCA underwriting. It describes something else and calls it by the same name.

This is also where the LLM-versus-structured-model dichotomy starts to fall apart. Reading a bank statement well is partly a math problem and partly a language problem. Categorizing a $4,200 ACH out as a vendor payment versus a stacked advance from another funder is not pure math. It requires reading the counterparty name, recognizing the funder, knowing the industry conventions. That work sits exactly at the seam between what Gu calls “solved as a big math problem” and what he calls “the perfect problem to throw sort of LLM-style AI against.” In MCA, those two are not separable layers. They are the same workflow, and pretending otherwise produces a model of the industry that does not match how the industry actually runs.

The deeper point is that the AI conversation in lending is not one conversation. Upstart’s answer is the right answer for Upstart’s problem. It does not automatically transfer, and the confidence with which it has been quoted in the credit world suggests the transfer is being assumed rather than examined.

Consumer credit, where Upstart operates, has had decades of structured-data infrastructure built around it: bureaus, scores, standardized loan documents, regulated disclosures, and well-defined repayment behavior. A math-heavy, low-LLM approach makes sense there because the inputs were already structured by the time the modeling started.

MCA grew up differently. The data is unstructured by default. The borrowers do not have meaningful credit files in the consumer sense. The product is non-recourse against a fluctuating revenue stream. The lifecycle is short and active. The signal that matters often lives in places, bank statement memos, merchant behavior, processor data, partner disputes, that look like language problems and behavior problems before they look like math problems.

That is why the LLM-style AI Gu is comfortable assigning “around the edges” work, which, in MCA, frequently involves core underwriting. Parsing the statement is part of underwriting. Reading the memo line is part of underwriting. Recognizing the third stacked funder is part of underwriting. Watching how a merchant’s deposit pattern shifts in week three of an advance is part of underwriting. Those are not auxiliary tasks bolted onto a clean math problem. They are the problem.

The disagreement with Gu, then, is not that AI cannot underwrite. He is not really arguing that. His actual position is closer to this: LLMs are not the right tool for the underwriting math, and you should not let the hype around LLMs convince you otherwise. On that, we agree.

The disagreement is this. In MCA, the underwriting problem is a math problem wrapped in a language problem wrapped in a continuous-monitoring problem. The math is necessary but not sufficient. The language and behavioral layers are where modern AI, LLM-style and otherwise, is genuinely changing how deals are priced, monitored, and learned from. With our new and up-and-coming platform, AI My Advance, this is exactly what we do: we parse the unstructured inputs, track merchant behavior after funding, and feed what we learn from defaulted deals back into how the next deal gets priced. Treating that work as merely “operational” is not a small mistake. It is the kind of mistake that produces a confident answer to the wrong question.

Upstart has earned the right to its view. The 91% automation figure is real, and the underlying modeling is serious. But that view was built on a problem whose inputs were already structured. The MCA industry is solving a different problem in real time, and the tools that work for it are not the same tools, in the same proportions, as those that work in consumer credit. The sooner that distinction is named clearly, the better the conversation about AI in lending becomes.

Upstart: Humans are not very good at underwriting loans so AI won’t be either

March 23, 2026
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digital humans“…unfortunately, humans have never really been very good at precisely underwriting loans and figuring out the cash flows they’re going to produce for the next 5 years,” said Upstart CEO Paul Gu during the company’s Q4 earnings call in response to an analyst’s question. “That’s something that has always been solved as a big math problem.”

Upstart’s innovative consumer credit models preceded the dawn of modern-day LLMs. It has been one of their defining features. Underwriting on their part is a combination of the best data access and math. Because of that, they do not view AI as a threat because AI is only great at replacing what humans are good at and underwriting is not one of those things.

“I mean the simple answer is just that a lot of the advances in AI are really good for work that humans are naturally good at,” said Gu.

Gu used an example of a HELOC in which human processors have to go through process of securing and perfecting a lien, checking property records, etc. “…like a lot of that stuff is a mess in a human way and traditionally comes with very high operations cost because you have a lot of people that are checking to make sure things are right,” Gu said. “Those are actually the perfect problem to throw sort of LLM-style AI against.”

When it comes to AI benefitting their business, that’s how Upstart is approaching it.

“…It’s really important to just remember that the LLM models coming from Anthropic or OpenAI or any of the others, Gemini, they are really good at solving problems that humans are good at solving and they can do it at scale. They can work 24/7. You can spin up 100 of them in parallel and have them work. But no matter how many humans you have, you don’t want that army of humans underwriting loans for you,” Gu said.

Upstart: 91% of loans fully automated

February 19, 2025
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AI-based online consumer lending company Upstart just wrapped up a strong year, generating a tiny $2.8M net loss on $219M in revenue. Upstart was known for AI in the fintech industry before AI became the buzzword it is now. Ninety-one percent of the company’s loans in 2024 were fully automated with no human involvement, and 93% of instant approvals converted to funded loans.

Notably, a significant amount of their loan volume is generated by direct mail.

“Whenever our models get better, we tend to get more volume from partners, DM — direct mail converts better so that we can actually increase the amount of direct mail we send,” said CEO David Girouard.

While the company halted its earlier plans to add small business loans to its product mix, it still estimates the size of the market in its quarterly presentations. And according to that it’s an $895 billion market annually.

Analysts on the call liked what they heard about Upstart’s 2024 performance.

“2024 was a year of rapid quarter by quarter improvement for Upstart, and the fourth quarter clearly took the cake,” said Girouard. “Considering the weak environment we faced at the beginning of the year, we couldn’t have asked for a stronger finish. In Q4, our business grew dramatically across all our product categories on a sequential basis, delivered Adjusted EBITDA at levels not seen since the first quarter of 2022, and came within a whisker of returning to GAAP profitability.”

Conversion Rates on Upstart’s Consumer Loans

November 7, 2023
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upstart websiteUpstart is having a tough time in the current interest rate environment.

“In the third quarter, rates were at an all-time high in our marketplace, higher than we expected them to be, reflecting both decades high interest rates and significantly elevated risk in the consumer economy,” said Upstart CEO David Girouard during the company’s Q3 earnings call. “This is not a path we would have chosen and is obviously not constructive to our growth, but it reflects the reality of operating responsibly in this environment.”

The company won’t offer loans above 36% APR which means if the risk models indicate a rate higher than that would be necessary to move forward, they just decline the loan altogether. Notably, this and other economic factors has had a negative impact on their conversion rates.

“I think our [conversion rate] for this quarter was around 8.5%,” said Upstart CFO Sanjay Datta. “So meaning, of all applicants to fill in an application and submit, about 8.5% of them become funded loans. I think at our peak, that number was closer to 24%.”

And of all loans that get approved, only 1/3rd of them fund.

It’s been a rough couple of years for Upstart. The stock is down 92% from its all time high in October 2021. At the time the company was planning to expand into the small business loan market, which it finally did in June 2022. In the subsequent quarter it originated $9M in small business loans. But earlier this year the company suspended it entirely. At the time Girouard said, “This was a necessary step to ensure we can adequately resource the rest of the roadmap. We look forward to the day when we can resume our pursuit of the world’s best AI-powered business loan.”

It has not resumed business lending though it continues to cite in its quarterly earnings presentations that the addressable small business loan market numbers $895B.

Upstart Halts Small Business Lending Division

February 14, 2023
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upstart websiteUpstart, the embattled online lender that recently announced a 20% reduction in headcount, revealed on Tuesday that it had also suspended its small business lending operations. The sudden about-face is notable given that the company just entered that market in mid-2022.

“With th[at] reduction in staffing, we also decided to pause development of our small business lending product,” said Upstart CEO David Girouard during the quarterly earnings call. “This was a necessary step to ensure we can adequately resource the rest of the roadmap. We look forward to the day when we can resume our pursuit of the world’s best AI-powered business loan.”

In the previous quarter, talk of small business lending had sounded more celebratory, which had just crossed $10 million originated since inception at the time.

“In many ways, last year was the perfect storm for our business model,” Girouard said. “The withdrawal of federal stimulus disproportionately harmed our borrowers, akin to a simulated recession for millions of mainstream Americans suddenly lost what had become their primary source of income. The Fed’s interest rate hikes, the fastest in several decades, left both lenders and capital markets cautious and concerned about what might come next in our economy.”

Upstart Hit With Another Lawsuit

October 13, 2022
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A new lawsuit brought by a shareholder of Upstart is also being brought derivatively on behalf of Upstart. That’s because plaintiff alleges that the Directors of the company would otherwise have to sue themselves or the company’s executives for the damage caused, a highly unlikely course of action.

Plaintiff alleges the company or certain directors and executives violated Section 14(a) of the Exchange Act, breached fiduciary duties, were unjustly enriched, abused their control, grossly mismanaged the company, wasted corporate assets, and violated Section 10(b) and 21D of the Exchange Act.

Things are not exactly great in shareholder land. The company’s stock as of May 4th close was $93.57 and is now currently hovering around $24.49. The plunge began when the company released its poorly-received quarterly earnings on May 9th. For a long time, the company had asserted it was not a balance sheet lender, but a shift in economic conditions was causing that to change.

The unwelcome quarterly earnings report was coincidentally timed after Upstart CEO David Girouard had sold more than $200M worth of company stock in the previous 8 month span and co-founder and SVP Paul Gu sold $140M worth over nearly the same time period.

Then, in August, Girouard said, “In the last few months, lenders and institutional credit investors reacted more quickly and abruptly than we anticipated. Despite the fact that our bank partners have seen consistently strong credit performance, meaning portfolios performing at or above plan across quarterly cohorts, several of them have paused or reduced originations due to fear about the future of the economy.”

Plaintiff alleges that false and misleading statements allowed the stock price to be propped up while insiders sold their stock on material non-public information. The full complaint can be viewed here.

This lawsuit is separate from a securities class action filed earlier this year.

Upstart Has Quietly Entered the Small Business Lending Market

August 9, 2022
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upstart websiteUpstart, once known as the AI-fintech lender for student loans, has gradually added products over time. Today, the company has entered the small business lending market, making good on the plans it announced last year.

Launched shortly before the close of the 2nd quarter, Upstart CEO Dave Girouard said during the earnings call that “We’ve already seen some more than 40 small business loans originated, totaling more than $1 million in principal in just a few weeks.” He further added that the company is “well ahead of schedule” in terms of rolling the program out.

“That team is quickly ironing out operational issues with an eye toward rapidly expanding this product in the coming months and years,” Girouard stated.

Previously, Girouard acknowledged that small business lending is becoming a crowded field.

“While there is no shortage of credit options to business owners, we aim to deliver the zero-latency affordable credit solution that modern businesses require,” he said last year.

There is a lot on the line for Upstart with this new product. Its core consumer lending business experienced a setback in the 2nd quarter when revenues declined on weaker demand for loans originated through its marketplace.

“In the last few months, lenders and institutional credit investors reacted more quickly and abruptly than we anticipated,” Girouard said. “Despite the fact that our bank partners have seen consistently strong credit performance, meaning portfolios performing at or above plan across quarterly cohorts, several of them have paused or reduced originations due to fear about the future of the economy.”



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