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Started by Peter, July 05, 2016, 11:00:00 PM

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Larry321

I was browsing at loans for sale on the Folio pages.
There are more than a few notes for $150 being sold at a discount of around 2% with $0 paid and 60 payments left.

Doesn't that mean that mean the seller is selling at a loss?
There is one loan, for which the seller, presumeably invested $150 and is selling the loans of $148.98.
There are several other loans with the same sort of discount?
What is the seller's logic in doing that?
How does that benefit the seller?

Also, Folio has loans listed with a negative YTM.
I thought you could not list loans at a negative YTM?
Why would anyone want to buy a negative YTM loan?

Thanks in advance to anyone who answers and clarifies any of tose questions.

Ran

Lendingclub raised rate for E-G 60m by ~1% early June. And the notes you see are those issued right before the rate raise. Generally for 60m amortization loans, 1% rate change needs 2-3% price decrease to get the same Yield To Maturity. So 2% or more discount is necessary. Actually the notes you see currently in Folio need to discount FURTHER to match the yield of new issue loans

Fred93


AnilG

I found 19 similar notes listed on Folio. Some of them that I checked appeared to be from Credit Grades that had significant change in interest rate since these notes were issued.

For example, Loan ID 79753348 is a 60 month F2 loan with 25.44% Interest Rate (https://www.peercube.com/comment?loanid=79753348" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">https://www.peercube.com/comment?loanid=79753348). The seller is selling note at 26.16% YTM and -2.36% markup. The new interest rate for F2 loans is 26.49%. The seller will come out ahead by selling the note than holding the note.

https://forum.lendacademy.com/index.php?topic=3989.msg36582#msg88888888Quote"> from: Larry321 on July 06, 2016, 11:18:20 AM

dalebreton

The answer to your question is not going to satisfy you.


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