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Quarter end skew

Started by Peter, August 09, 2015, 11:00:00 PM

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jheizer

Anyone else getting to the point where end of the month + ACH settlement time = HUGE payment amounts?  Since my account is pretty young I am starting to develop a pretty large bias.  Todays payment total was about 1/5 of my monthly total.

Fred93

A shockingly large amount of money popped into my account today.  Do you understand what caused this?

TravelingPennies

Yeah.  Multiple quarter ends now having massive volume with most of them issuing in the end at the same time.  Usually a day or two after the quarter ends. In my case with my account only being ~7 months old It has a larger effect than others since it is fresh, but has gone through the surge twice now.

lascott

Yes, happened in both my few month old account and my 1.5 yrs old account.  Probably 1/6th of my monthly amount.

Doesn't line up with the cash flow expectations per day of month via LendingRobot, BlueVestment, or InterestRadar.


TravelingPennies

Next payment day for my loans. 
https://forum.lendacademy.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lendacademy.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D3353.0%3Battach%3D1027&hash=2c8f09c9d8f3b5d7a20bd65e27a9ff0f" alt="" class="bbc_img" />

Edit: Y axis = number of loans if it wasn't obvious.

TravelingPennies

I don't think the quarter end explains what happened yesterday. It happened to both my accounts. My daily graphs are not anything like yours.

Here is my 1.5 yr account.

Image: http://i.imgur.com/8o0m0Ts.png" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/8o0m0Ts.png
https://forum.lendacademy.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8o0m0Ts.png&hash=9c1cca3a31c442bb7ac14ffe7be423a0" alt="" class="bbc_img" />


TravelingPennies

From my portfolio...
https://forum.lendacademy.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffred93.com%2Ffbi%2FLC-day-of-month-note-issue.png&hash=e9f27d0c662d6f42afd07e9338d3dad0" alt="" class="bbc_img" />
I have over 3000 notes so these stats should be pretty good.  Days 1,2,3 clearly win.

So when a Thursday falls on the 6th of the month, then that Thursday's payment will include payments due on all 3 big days (1st, 2nd, 3rd) of the month.  This produces a payment of about 15% of the month total, vs the normal daily payment which averages around 3.2% of the month total.  On the average, each Thursdays should pay about 9.7% of a months total.

Great detective work BruiserB.

TravelingPennies

Darn, I did that wrong.  Its the payment date that matters, not the issue date. 

https://forum.lendacademy.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffred93.com%2Ffbi%2FLC-Day-Of-Month-Stuff.png&hash=722a07937ef82d3c611265bb58458c98" alt="" class="bbc_img" />

Now this has me confused again, because the orange dots don't fit the theory we've been discussing.  The orange dots have some pretty interesting things going on.  I wonder why people select those payment dates.  Maybe a lot of people get paid in the middle of the month?



TravelingPennies

Using my method to calculate actual amount from this thread: http://www.lendacademy.com/forum/index.php?topic=3345.0" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.lendacademy.com/forum/index.php?topic=3345.0
I created this google calendar.  You can see the formula I used above to build the data rows for the attached HTML.
100% is relative to each months maximum payment. Should be clear from looking at the legend in the calendar chart.
NOTE: Calendar is read vertically!  Weeks are horizontal.

Image: http://i.imgur.com/RNqpucM.png" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/RNqpucM.png
https://forum.lendacademy.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRNqpucM.png&hash=5d8cfa6d69fe8a35fe8b9ea26dd176b1" alt="" class="bbc_img" />

NOTE: Calendar is read vertically!  Weeks are horizontal.
Image: http://i.imgur.com/8k2SLkQ.png" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/8k2SLkQ.png
https://forum.lendacademy.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8k2SLkQ.png&hash=ca3d7696d2d5509ec2865e69b88c1cde" alt="" class="bbc_img" />

Attachment is the HTML file I used to create the calendar ( https://developers.google.com/chart/interactive/docs/gallery/calendar" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">https://developers.google.com/chart/interactive/docs/gallery/calendar )



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