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Is a Taxable Account Even Worth It?

Started by Peter, May 13, 2013, 11:00:00 PM

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bassfamily

I was reading on the blog post about taxes. People were saying that since they got taxed on the full amount of interest, but couldn't directly deduct the charge offs against it (since they were capital loss) they ended up paying way more in taxes than they thought was worth it. I don't have an IRA, but I do have a taxable Lending Club account with about $3,000 in it. I was planning to add more but didn't know if it was worth it after taxes.

Fred

If you could keep a NAR (which includes charged-off losses) above a certain level (e.g., 6%), I'd say an LC taxable account is worth it.

TravelingPennies

Have to agree with Fred. Surely even 4% taxable is better than zero....or say 1% in bank which is taxable. If you are not achieving these minimal level returns, with the tools out there, I think you are doing something wrong or are not diversified. I am NOT a pro but this seems highly unlikely scenario that taxes would affect your decision to invest or not, compared with savings account etc. Ask the forum, it is very helpful, and fun  https://forum.lendacademy.com/Smileys/default/cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" class="smiley" />

New Jersey Guy

"I am NOT a pro but this seems highly unlikely scenario that taxes would affect your decision to invest or not, compared with savings account etc."

I gotta agree with Fred and Show Me.  I mean, stuffing your cash under your matress is a good way to avoid taxes, but I'm not sure what kind of return you'd make.

In my opinion?  I'll work to keep my NAR up.  I'll let my accountant figure out how to keep it.

hoosierlender

It is all relative to other options.  If the returns are above 7% after taxes with far less volatility than stocks, I would argue it is definitely worth it.

ee1x

Agree with all of the above. I only have taxable accounts on both LC and Prosper right now but I am planning on opening some IRAs soon to get the additional benefits provided by those. I have to say it is nice to know that with a taxable account I can have immediate, no-penalty access to my cash flow if necessary.

rajuabju

Also depends on your tax bracket (both Fed and State if applicable).

I'm in California, and I'm in the max tax bracket. Even then, the after-tax returns I'm making on LC are far higher than almost anywhere else I could put my money. I keep my IRA stuffed with other investment opportunities.

TravelingPennies

Max tax bracket in CA.. that 10.3% over $2m for couples.  You must be an early FB employee selling stock options.   https://forum.lendacademy.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" class="smiley" />

TravelingPennies

Sorry, forgot about the 1% EXTRA surcharge (not a "tax" remember) for incomes above $1M. I'm in the 9.3% bracket.

If I was an early FB employee cashing out, I'd probably renounce citizenship and move like Saverin.


TravelingPennies

Yes I was mistaken the tax about the highest bracket.  It keeps going up so fast I can't keep track.   https://forum.lendacademy.com/Smileys/default/cry.gif" alt=":'(" title="Cry" class="smiley" />

All in I'm taxed at ~50% so yes I'm getting screwed (9.3+35+3.8%). But look at it this way, a 5% after tax yield is better than just about anything out there with reasonable credit risk, particularly considering the diversification benefits, etc.  The only thing that's close is Puerto Rico munis... but we've already talked about that in another thread.


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