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Lending Club Discussion => Investors - LC => Topic started by: Lovinglifestyle on March 22, 2016, 11:00:00 PM

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Post by: Lovinglifestyle on March 22, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
Although I appreciate seeing so many approved loans in each note drop, I can't help but wonder what the effect is on the borrowers of waiting as much as 13 days to see their loans get offered for funding.  Unless you check the submit date under complete loan details you won't know the submit date, which btw doesn't always coincide with the "days" number.  By the time we see the loan appear, the borrower may not still want it, so being approved by LC doesn't mean we're as much more likely to see our notes issued as we think.  Any comments?
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Post by: AnilG on March 22, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
You are assuming that borrowers are waiting 12 days for their loans to be funded, issued and funds sent to borrower. It is possible that LC already approved and issued the loan, and sent funds to the borrower. And, now offering the loan on its platform to retail and institutional investors. Think of the process as two distinct parts: first part - loan applied and funds issued to borrower, and second part - loan fractionalized and corresponding notes being issued to investors (fractionalization, reverse of securitization).

from: Lovinglifestyle on March 23, 2016, 05:44:38 PM
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Post by: TravelingPennies on March 22, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
Aha!  Thanks, Anil.  LC actually sending them the money first never occurred to me!
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Post by: rawraw on March 22, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
Well, I'd technically think it would be Webbank
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Post by: TravelingPennies on March 22, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
You're right of course.  Thanks, sorry!
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Post by: yojoakak on March 22, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
from: AnilG on March 23, 2016, 06:30:28 PM
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Post by: dompazz on March 22, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
from: yojoakak on March 23, 2016, 08:26:12 PM
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Post by: TravelingPennies on March 22, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
Most payment dates to lenders are not same as note issue dates so I don't see any relationship between when notes are issued and when payments are received. IIRC, first two weeks of interest goes to Web bank any way. LC has wherewithal now to fill any gap temporarily between borrowing and lending.

With recent proposed changes in Web Bank having some ownership of the loan, I expect there will be more disjointed process between loan being issued to borrower and note being issued to lender. Supreme Court asked DOJ for opinion on Madden case so I expect more changes to come in the future. IMO, the lending and borrowing process is not as simple as it used to be few years ago.

from: yojoakak on March 23, 2016, 08:26:12 PM
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Post by: jennrod12 on March 23, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
It doesn't make sense to me that LC would fund the loans before investors have.  That has the potential to leave LC holding the bag on a lot of partial loans if investors don't pick them up fully.  Is there evidence that this is happening?

Jenn
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Post by: nmay2k on April 06, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
I think it is the only explanation for LC being in the red.
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Post by: TravelingPennies on April 07, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
from: nmay2k on April 07, 2016, 09:39:21 PM
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Post by: P2PFact on April 07, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
What happens when the loan is not fully funded? LC will just fund the loan? Then they become like a balance sheet lender. This certainly is not good for your stock valuation.
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Post by: Fred93 on April 07, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
from: P2PFact on April 08, 2016, 08:52:56 PM
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Post by: TravelingPennies on April 07, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
from: Fred93 on April 08, 2016, 08:54:32 PM
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Post by: TravelingPennies on April 07, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
from: P2PFact on April 08, 2016, 09:04:00 PM
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Post by: Fred93 on April 07, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
Here are words from the latest LC 10K SEC filing, which describe the sequence of events.
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