1 00:00:00.625 --> 00:00:01.205 Hey everyone. 2 00:00:01.205 --> 00:00:02.205 Alison Berger here. 3 00:00:02.225 --> 00:00:04.045 I'm at Broker Fair 2024 4 00:00:04.185 --> 00:00:06.005 and I'm currently with Michael O'Hare 5 00:00:06.005 --> 00:00:08.685 of TCPA Litigator List. How are you doing? 6 00:00:09.025 --> 00:00:11.125 I'm doing great. It's a great show to be at this year. 7 00:00:11.635 --> 00:00:13.045 Tell me a little bit about your company. 8 00:00:13.355 --> 00:00:16.885 Alright, so the TCPA litigator list is basically a, uh, 9 00:00:17.365 --> 00:00:20.245 TCPA, which stands for telephone comm, uh, 10 00:00:20.565 --> 00:00:21.725 telephone Consumer Protection Act. 11 00:00:22.025 --> 00:00:23.565 We do, uh, suppression 12 00:00:23.585 --> 00:00:25.765 and risk mitigation for TCPA, 13 00:00:25.765 --> 00:00:27.325 which basically are phone violations. 14 00:00:28.225 --> 00:00:30.165 So a lot of people make, will make phone calls 15 00:00:30.225 --> 00:00:31.685 to different clients and so forth. 16 00:00:32.225 --> 00:00:34.285 And yet some of the, their prospects, 17 00:00:34.285 --> 00:00:36.285 they might be actually litigators looking 18 00:00:36.285 --> 00:00:39.245 to sue them instead of getting funding for their business. 19 00:00:40.115 --> 00:00:42.775 And so what we do is we collect all those fund numbers from 20 00:00:42.775 --> 00:00:44.375 the legal complaints to demand letters 21 00:00:44.395 --> 00:00:46.095 and put it in our database where you, 22 00:00:46.095 --> 00:00:48.975 where our clients can scrub, either upload a list 23 00:00:48.995 --> 00:00:50.015 or use our API. 24 00:00:50.395 --> 00:00:52.215 And what type of clients should be calling you? 25 00:00:52.955 --> 00:00:55.295 All, everybody in MB MCA industry, anybody 26 00:00:55.295 --> 00:00:57.055 that makes a phone call, really 27 00:00:57.635 --> 00:01:00.255 it should always be scrubbing, we say ab, uh, A BS, 28 00:01:00.255 --> 00:01:01.455 which means always be scrubbing. 29 00:01:01.635 --> 00:01:04.735 And the reason is because this is a top target industry 30 00:01:05.035 --> 00:01:06.255 for TCPA litigators. 31 00:01:06.485 --> 00:01:08.335 They think all the people in New York, Manhattan, 32 00:01:08.335 --> 00:01:09.775 they have a lot of money, they'll write 33 00:01:09.775 --> 00:01:10.855 out checks and so forth. 34 00:01:11.155 --> 00:01:13.175 So they're really trying to really induce a lot 35 00:01:13.175 --> 00:01:16.455 of calls from the TCP, I mean from the MCA industry 36 00:01:17.035 --> 00:01:20.975 and then, you know, force that TCPA, uh, lawsuit or whatever 37 00:01:21.115 --> 00:01:22.215 and we want to prevent that. 38 00:01:22.895 --> 00:01:23.895 Interesting. Well, 39 00:01:23.895 --> 00:01:25.975 we don't wanna prevent you from getting more business, so 40 00:01:25.975 --> 00:01:27.935 how are you making that happen for you this year? 41 00:01:28.595 --> 00:01:29.935 So we're, we're actually sponsoring 42 00:01:29.935 --> 00:01:32.455 for the first time this year, this show here in, 43 00:01:32.635 --> 00:01:33.895 uh, in New York. 44 00:01:34.265 --> 00:01:36.615 Thank you. So thank you very much. Thank you. 45 00:01:36.645 --> 00:01:38.055 Sean Murray's really been great. 46 00:01:38.635 --> 00:01:40.295 And so we have a, we have a booth here 47 00:01:40.675 --> 00:01:41.935 and we're talking to a lot of people. 48 00:01:42.035 --> 00:01:45.055 We have A-T-C-P-A Survival Guide that was written by one 49 00:01:45.055 --> 00:01:47.615 of the top TCPA lawyers, ed Mulo in Florida. 50 00:01:48.075 --> 00:01:51.175 And we're giving that out just in trying to educate a lot 51 00:01:51.315 --> 00:01:53.855 of the, the funding companies as well as the ISOs 52 00:01:53.855 --> 00:01:55.935 and brokers about how they can protect themselves 53 00:01:55.935 --> 00:01:56.935 and mitigate their risk. 54 00:01:57.435 --> 00:02:00.335 And it first starts with getting a good TCBA mitigation 55 00:02:00.335 --> 00:02:02.815 company like ours or one of our competitors. 56 00:02:03.115 --> 00:02:05.135 And you just scrub. So you're not calling these people, 57 00:02:05.635 --> 00:02:10.175 you have access to the federal DNC state DNCs as well 58 00:02:10.175 --> 00:02:11.935 as you can put your own suppression list in 59 00:02:12.195 --> 00:02:13.815 so you can really protect your company 60 00:02:14.435 --> 00:02:18.095 and get do your business instead of dealing with lawsuits. 61 00:02:18.365 --> 00:02:20.455 Well, we wanna talk about you and not your competitors. 62 00:02:20.475 --> 00:02:21.735 So what makes you better than them? 63 00:02:22.525 --> 00:02:23.735 Well, I'll tell you a little story. 64 00:02:23.735 --> 00:02:27.575 In 2018, my, I have a, a lead generation company for MCA 65 00:02:27.955 --> 00:02:32.455 and we got sued for $5 million for two phone calls. 66 00:02:33.555 --> 00:02:36.775 And so from that, this company kind of grew out of that, 67 00:02:37.355 --> 00:02:38.895 uh, issue problem. 68 00:02:39.515 --> 00:02:42.095 And we built probably one of the best ones because we went 69 00:02:42.095 --> 00:02:46.175 after, um, really all the litigators 70 00:02:46.435 --> 00:02:48.215 and also what we call pre litigators. 71 00:02:48.505 --> 00:02:50.215 These are people who send out demand letters 72 00:02:50.675 --> 00:02:52.255 and some of these people make hundreds of thousands 73 00:02:52.255 --> 00:02:55.495 of dollars a year just sending out letters and emails. 74 00:02:56.315 --> 00:02:58.775 So we've collected all that, we collect all their numbers, 75 00:02:59.095 --> 00:03:00.125 their immediate numbers, 76 00:03:00.625 --> 00:03:03.605 and we have other little defense things that we do too 77 00:03:04.345 --> 00:03:07.325 to help protect all of our clients because our main goal 78 00:03:07.325 --> 00:03:09.845 and vision is we don't want any one of our clients 79 00:03:09.945 --> 00:03:11.405 to be sued by a known litigator. 80 00:03:11.965 --> 00:03:13.035 Right. We don't want that to happen. 81 00:03:13.375 --> 00:03:14.595 So I'm gonna demand something 82 00:03:14.595 --> 00:03:18.355 of you now we're having everyone do a 32nd broker bite. 83 00:03:18.615 --> 00:03:20.795 And tell me about what you're so excited about today. 84 00:03:21.695 --> 00:03:24.425 Well, I'm so excited about meeting, uh, Sean and his crew 85 00:03:24.565 --> 00:03:26.185 and he's got really a great team 86 00:03:26.205 --> 00:03:27.625 and they do such a professional job, 87 00:03:27.995 --> 00:03:30.785 especially like even this doing this interview right here 88 00:03:31.095 --> 00:03:32.305 with the film crew and everything. 89 00:03:32.305 --> 00:03:34.745 It's really great. Uh, the food is wonderful 90 00:03:35.245 --> 00:03:36.545 and I really like this venue 91 00:03:36.775 --> 00:03:38.305 because it's very spacious 92 00:03:38.715 --> 00:03:41.585 where sometimes we had in Times Square it was a little bit 93 00:03:41.585 --> 00:03:44.105 cramped and so this is, have a little more space 94 00:03:44.445 --> 00:03:45.505 and it's open 95 00:03:45.725 --> 00:03:48.345 and it's, it's always a good thing to come and see your clients. 96 00:03:48.985 --> 00:03:51.065 'cause I'm from Colorado, we're based in Colorado, 97 00:03:51.405 --> 00:03:52.705 so we fly out here to New York 98 00:03:52.925 --> 00:03:55.465 and it's just a great place venue, great city 99 00:03:56.005 --> 00:03:57.345 and one of the best cities in the world. 100 00:03:57.485 --> 00:04:00.305 So thank you again so much and thank you to New York and 101 00:04:00.305 --> 00:04:01.305 Everything else. Well, thank you for 102 00:04:01.305 --> 00:04:02.265 spending some time with me 103 00:04:02.685 --> 00:04:03.585 and we'll be right back.