1 00:00:00.300 --> 00:00:03.300 Here we have for what appears to be the first time ever 2 00:00:03.300 --> 00:00:07.600 a state actually implementing its disclosure 3 00:00:07.600 --> 00:00:10.800 law that it passed. We've had several States Implement of 4 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:14.000 past laws and not Implement them. Virginia is 5 00:00:13.200 --> 00:00:16.100 going to be the first as of at least 6 00:00:16.100 --> 00:00:17.000 as of Friday. 7 00:00:17.700 --> 00:00:20.300 It was still on to go into effect on 8 00:00:20.300 --> 00:00:23.100 July 1st. Now. It's possible. It could 9 00:00:23.100 --> 00:00:26.500 be delayed. Yeah for like a month or so. Yeah only because 10 00:00:27.500 --> 00:00:30.900 the law requires that some 11 00:00:30.900 --> 00:00:33.800 very specific form disclosure form 12 00:00:33.800 --> 00:00:36.700 be used in this form was given out to 13 00:00:36.700 --> 00:00:39.300 a lot of the companies that will be impacted and I think 14 00:00:39.300 --> 00:00:42.100 there was some worry that 15 00:00:42.100 --> 00:00:45.900 they would not be able to incorporate it into their technology Quicken up. 16 00:00:45.900 --> 00:00:48.100 But okay great. Here's this form. What do 17 00:00:48.100 --> 00:00:51.700 you mean? I have to implement it by what if July first is what Friday Friday we mean 18 00:00:51.700 --> 00:00:54.200 to implement it by Friday. Yeah. You got to give me you just 19 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:56.400 got to give me maybe even just a couple more months like 20 00:00:57.300 --> 00:01:00.400 You know, we'll do it. Right we know we have to comply 21 00:01:00.400 --> 00:01:03.300 just give me a little bit more time. And so there is 22 00:01:03.300 --> 00:01:06.600 a disclosure form that's been drafted that is available 23 00:01:06.600 --> 00:01:08.000 on our site that you can see. 24 00:01:09.300 --> 00:01:12.100 And it's a it's it's very basic. How much 25 00:01:12.100 --> 00:01:15.200 is the merchant gonna get funded? You know, what is the cost? What are 26 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:18.300 all the fees broken down? These type of things can 27 00:01:18.300 --> 00:01:21.700 can already usually be found on a small business finance 28 00:01:21.700 --> 00:01:25.200 contract. I think one of the new and 29 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:27.300 unique pieces of it is that 30 00:01:27.300 --> 00:01:30.400 it does require the funding company to put the amount 31 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:33.200 of commission or compensation that the broker 32 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:37.700 is getting. Yeah. So normally the merchant would 33 00:01:36.700 --> 00:01:39.400 not know what the 34 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:42.300 broker was getting could be 35 00:01:42.300 --> 00:01:45.300 thousands of dollars. Yeah could be 100 dollars, but I 36 00:01:45.300 --> 00:01:48.700 don't know that the merchants usually new now. 37 00:01:48.700 --> 00:01:51.800 It's going to be spelled out on an actual form right 38 00:01:51.800 --> 00:01:54.400 in a very specific area that don't they'll 39 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.400 know where to look and so I don't know if that 40 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:00.500 will change the negotiation process between 41 00:02:00.500 --> 00:02:03.500 the merchant and the broker I actually posted a post a 42 00:02:03.500 --> 00:02:06.400 question on LinkedIn asking people what they 43 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:08.700 thought will happen and there is some belief that 44 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:12.500 Change the negotiating conversation that let's 45 00:02:12.500 --> 00:02:15.800 say a broker stands to makes a significant chunk 46 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:18.400 of change right that the 47 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:21.100 there could be some pushback from the merchant to say, 48 00:02:21.100 --> 00:02:24.000 why are you making so much? You know what I mean? 49 00:02:24.100 --> 00:02:27.300 Like, what can we do to get my own cost down where you're 50 00:02:27.300 --> 00:02:30.100 not getting this what I perceive to be an exorbitant amount 51 00:02:30.100 --> 00:02:33.900 of money. It might not even be exorbitant. It might be low, right? But no, 52 00:02:33.900 --> 00:02:36.400 how can how does how can I change my 53 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:39.500 own cost now when I see what you're making? Oh, you're 54 00:02:39.500 --> 00:02:42.300 gonna make $8,000 on this. Well, why don't 55 00:02:42.300 --> 00:02:45.700 you go back to the underwriters and tell them I want a much better deal. Yeah, since 56 00:02:45.700 --> 00:02:48.600 you're making all this money go work harder for me get me 57 00:02:48.600 --> 00:02:51.100 something better, right? You can't just give me 58 00:02:51.100 --> 00:02:54.100 two phone calls and shoot me an email and get eight grand out of 59 00:02:54.100 --> 00:02:56.200 it. Yeah, go to work for me do the work. 60 00:02:56.900 --> 00:02:59.700 Now, I don't know that the merchants are 61 00:02:59.700 --> 00:03:02.200 going to realize that oftentimes this sales person. 62 00:03:02.200 --> 00:03:05.200 They're working with isn't getting that amount. They're usually 63 00:03:05.200 --> 00:03:08.400 getting a percentage of that amount because it's the broker's shop. 64 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:11.400 That's getting the total dollar amount. But in 65 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:14.900 any case, you know, what's different about the contract is going 66 00:03:14.900 --> 00:03:17.800 to be that disclosure. That's probably going to change the 67 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:20.200 conversation. And then what was it? What was the second thing 68 00:03:20.200 --> 00:03:23.400 that you asked so how I was going to impact businesses in 69 00:03:24.600 --> 00:03:27.300 okay. Yeah doing businesses with MCAS. Okay, or 70 00:03:27.300 --> 00:03:30.200 it's not just MCA. That's all types of small business 71 00:03:30.200 --> 00:03:33.300 financing. And so the other aspect of how 72 00:03:33.300 --> 00:03:36.700 will it change is that by November if you 73 00:03:36.700 --> 00:03:38.900 want to offer small business financing? 74 00:03:39.600 --> 00:03:42.400 To a virginia-based business 75 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.800 you have to register with the state of Virginia. You 76 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:48.300 have to abide by a certain set of rules. You have 77 00:03:48.300 --> 00:03:51.600 to submit yourself to a background check and pay a fee. If 78 00:03:51.600 --> 00:03:55.300 you're any type of criminal or whatever. They're looking 79 00:03:55.300 --> 00:03:58.600 at the officers the owners the managers the directors whoever 80 00:03:58.600 --> 00:04:01.500 effectively control the organization if you're basically a 81 00:04:01.500 --> 00:04:04.200 criminal you're not going to be allowed to do that type of 82 00:04:04.200 --> 00:04:07.300 business in Virginia. Also, if you have a 83 00:04:07.300 --> 00:04:11.500 dispute over the contract, it does require you 84 00:04:11.500 --> 00:04:14.500 to bring your case in the state of Virginia. You 85 00:04:14.500 --> 00:04:17.200 would not be this now. This is my non lawyer 86 00:04:17.200 --> 00:04:20.400 hat. So please consult the way over everything but 87 00:04:21.500 --> 00:04:25.100 My Elementary reading of it. It's kind 88 00:04:24.100 --> 00:04:27.300 of states that you'd have to bring your claims in 89 00:04:27.300 --> 00:04:30.600 a Virginia court that you couldn't sue them in 90 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:33.600 the near in New York state. Yeah also, you 91 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:36.800 could be subject to audits penalties and 92 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:39.100 fines by the Virginia state regulator. You have to 93 00:04:39.100 --> 00:04:42.600 pay an annual fee. You're essentially have to be licensed. Yeah. And so 94 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.500 you cannot just do business freely and 95 00:04:45.500 --> 00:04:48.300 not think you're care about anything. There's now going 96 00:04:48.300 --> 00:04:51.600 to be a watchdog essentially regulator. Yeah who oversees you 97 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:54.200 in that state? Yeah, that's that goes into 98 00:04:54.200 --> 00:04:57.200 effect. My understanding is November the having to be licensed part 99 00:04:57.200 --> 00:05:00.200 but the commission disclosure and the rest of the disclosure. It's supposed to 100 00:05:00.200 --> 00:05:03.800 go into effect July first. So do you think that other states will also 101 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:06.500 take no of what's going on in Virginia 102 00:05:06.500 --> 00:05:09.500 and how they're doing things and implement it into what 103 00:05:09.500 --> 00:05:10.000 they want. 104 00:05:11.300 --> 00:05:14.300 I mean, I don't know that they don't necessarily follow what 105 00:05:14.300 --> 00:05:17.500 Virginia is doing. I think Virginia followed other states. Yeah, 106 00:05:17.500 --> 00:05:20.400 California Pastor law four years ago, and it 107 00:05:20.400 --> 00:05:21.900 finally goes into effect in December. 108 00:05:23.300 --> 00:05:26.700 New York passed its law is not yet got into effect. Yeah, 109 00:05:26.700 --> 00:05:30.000 and we're still waiting for a a updated 110 00:05:29.300 --> 00:05:30.500 and updated. 111 00:05:32.200 --> 00:05:35.100 Guidance or draft? I'm not really sure what it is. 112 00:05:35.100 --> 00:05:38.300 What what you would call it. But um, there was 113 00:05:38.300 --> 00:05:41.600 a proposal as to how the law would be carried out by the 114 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:44.300 New York State regulator and they put out something and 115 00:05:44.300 --> 00:05:47.300 people said it's not going to work someone back to the drawing board and we had 116 00:05:47.300 --> 00:05:50.700 haven't heard from them since Utah also passes own 117 00:05:50.700 --> 00:05:53.200 law that's going to go into effect as well. 118 00:05:53.200 --> 00:05:56.900 I don't think people are gonna look to Virginia necessarily for how you 119 00:05:56.900 --> 00:05:59.700 know, what can they do in their own state? But I think that they may 120 00:05:59.700 --> 00:06:02.700 look at it for how how quick 121 00:06:02.700 --> 00:06:06.100 was the industry able to adapt 122 00:06:05.100 --> 00:06:08.500 to providing the disclosures because 123 00:06:08.500 --> 00:06:12.100 if you say it's impossible to give you to comply it's 124 00:06:11.100 --> 00:06:14.100 such a short amount of time. We'll have to update 125 00:06:14.100 --> 00:06:17.300 all our technology and everyone does it and one day. Yeah, 126 00:06:17.300 --> 00:06:20.100 and then you tell California it's gonna take me years to do 127 00:06:20.100 --> 00:06:20.800 it. Yeah, like