1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.190 Johny Fernandez: Cryptocurrency Exchange Coinbase is now 2 00:00:02.190 --> 00:00:06.150 allowing customers to borrow as much as 40% of their Bitcoin 3 00:00:06.150 --> 00:00:09.720 value up to 1 million with no credit checks. And this was all 4 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:16.710 announced last week. So, Sean, this is something that it's a 5 00:00:16.710 --> 00:00:20.370 little bit of a game changer, the borrowing minimum, maximum 6 00:00:20.670 --> 00:00:23.640 amounts vary through state that's something that they 7 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:26.400 announced and the loans that will be issued with the annual 8 00:00:26.400 --> 00:00:30.030 percentage rate of 8%. And borrowers borrowers will not be 9 00:00:30.030 --> 00:00:34.410 required to show credit checks, customers can obtain the cash 10 00:00:34.410 --> 00:00:38.160 using their Pay Pal account or bank account. And they will need 11 00:00:38.160 --> 00:00:42.480 to make a minimum of a $10 monthly interest payment, and 12 00:00:42.480 --> 00:00:46.980 coin, Coinbase is offering flexible repayment schedules. So 13 00:00:46.980 --> 00:00:49.410 when you hear this Sean, I mean, someone that's in this specific 14 00:00:49.410 --> 00:00:52.830 space? Is this something that you think is going to take off? 15 00:00:53.430 --> 00:00:53.880 Sean Murray: I do. 16 00:00:54.120 --> 00:00:54.510 Johny Fernandez: Okay. 17 00:00:54.540 --> 00:00:57.660 Sean Murray: I think it will, because one of the downsides to 18 00:00:57.660 --> 00:01:00.930 putting your money in Bitcoin, is you lose access to the cash 19 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:04.350 at the trade. If you have $20,000 and you feel like 20 00:01:04.350 --> 00:01:07.080 Bitcoin is definitely going to go up talking about people who 21 00:01:07.080 --> 00:01:10.650 are speculating on it. Feel like Bitcoin is definitely going to 22 00:01:10.650 --> 00:01:14.280 go up. And you want to put $20,000 in Bitcoin, the trade 23 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:17.580 off is that you don't have $20,000 to actually manage your 24 00:01:17.580 --> 00:01:21.870 day to day, right. So what you could do is you could put the 25 00:01:21.870 --> 00:01:25.980 $20,000 in Bitcoin, and then you could borrow your own cash back 26 00:01:25.980 --> 00:01:29.340 against it. So you can have access to the cash while being 27 00:01:29.340 --> 00:01:33.480 invested in Bitcoin at the same time, everyone would do this in 28 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:38.490 a heartbeat. If the interest rate was was zero, that there 29 00:01:38.490 --> 00:01:41.250 has to be some interest rate. You said it's 8% percent, right? 30 00:01:41.250 --> 00:01:45.180 Yeah. So if the interest rate was zero, every single person 31 00:01:45.180 --> 00:01:47.850 would do it. Right. If you could put $20,000 into Bitcoin and and 32 00:01:47.850 --> 00:01:50.760 borrow, borrow the money back, and there was no cost for you to 33 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:56.070 do, you're basically making a risk free bet on Bitcoin. But, 34 00:01:56.130 --> 00:01:58.950 you know, the caveat is the 8% interest rate that you're paying 35 00:01:58.980 --> 00:02:03.030 to Coinbase for borrowing your own money, right? And you said 36 00:02:03.030 --> 00:02:06.270 something like, you can only borrow up to 40% of your 37 00:02:06.300 --> 00:02:09.510 Johny Fernandez: As much as 40% of the Bitcoin value up to a 38 00:02:09.510 --> 00:02:10.020 million. 39 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:12.514 Sean Murray: Yeah, that's to protect the downside risk for 40 00:02:12.568 --> 00:02:15.760 Coinbase. Like if you have a million dollars in Bitcoin and 41 00:02:15.815 --> 00:02:19.277 you borrow a million dollars and bitcoins value shrinks to like, 42 00:02:19.331 --> 00:02:22.740 let's say that million dollars in Bitcoins shrinks to 500k. And 43 00:02:22.794 --> 00:02:25.770 you're walking around with $1 million, all of a sudden, 44 00:02:25.824 --> 00:02:28.962 Coinbase is exposed because their collateral is only 500k. 45 00:02:29.016 --> 00:02:32.370 So if you defaulted on that loan to Coinbase, Coinbase will be 46 00:02:32.425 --> 00:02:35.725 out 500 grand, there will be a true lender that would have to 47 00:02:35.779 --> 00:02:39.242 deal with a lot of headaches, if the value of the collateral was 48 00:02:39.296 --> 00:02:42.272 way less than what they gave you. So they're protecting 49 00:02:42.326 --> 00:02:45.842 themselves from downside risk by by capping it at 40% of your own 50 00:02:45.897 --> 00:02:49.143 crypto portfolio or I guess Bitcoin portfolio. I don't know. 51 00:02:49.197 --> 00:02:52.010 I think it's something that people are going to take 52 00:02:52.064 --> 00:02:55.311 advantage of. It's something that I thought a lot about just 53 00:02:55.365 --> 00:02:58.503 in the last week, and I think it's something that everyone 54 00:02:58.557 --> 00:02:59.910 should keep their eye on.