1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.520 Sean Murray: So we've been talking a lot about the New York 2 00:00:02.850 --> 00:00:05.850 Commercial Financing Disclosure law that's going into effect 3 00:00:05.880 --> 00:00:09.810 supposed to go into effect on January 1, when they told us 4 00:00:09.810 --> 00:00:12.630 that they were fully intending to move forward with that date 5 00:00:12.660 --> 00:00:16.260 as written into the law itself. They told everyone that they 6 00:00:16.260 --> 00:00:19.290 basically have the option to at least give a comment before the 7 00:00:19.290 --> 00:00:25.350 final rule. Self is final. And they were like standby for 8 00:00:25.350 --> 00:00:28.260 information about how to comment and like everyone's like, okay, 9 00:00:28.260 --> 00:00:31.290 great, because a lot of people want to comment. And we were 10 00:00:31.290 --> 00:00:33.120 keeping an eye on how to do it, too. We wanted to make sure 11 00:00:33.120 --> 00:00:36.630 everyone had that information. And by the time I personally 12 00:00:36.630 --> 00:00:39.510 found it, they said that the deadline had passed, the 13 00:00:39.510 --> 00:00:42.990 opportunity to comment had already passed. And I missed it 14 00:00:42.990 --> 00:00:45.090 by like, four or five days, by the time I found out how, you 15 00:00:45.090 --> 00:00:48.900 were supposed to comment. The deadline was over. And it was 16 00:00:48.900 --> 00:00:52.050 very obscure. You were supposed to email someone who was listed 17 00:00:52.050 --> 00:00:56.040 on the on the site. I'm like, oh, you know, and they didn't do 18 00:00:56.040 --> 00:00:58.050 an announcement. You had to you had to find it. 19 00:00:58.110 --> 00:00:59.970 Johny Fernandez: And usually, you know, they said, they we're 20 00:00:59.970 --> 00:01:02.190 going to provide this information, and. 21 00:01:02.400 --> 00:01:03.150 Sean Murray: Everyone was waiting. 22 00:01:03.690 --> 00:01:05.430 Johny Fernandez: Everyone's gonna be able to comment but. 23 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:07.410 Sean Murray: They didn't tell you. They didn't do any 24 00:01:07.440 --> 00:01:10.290 secondary announcement. Like, here's, here's how you comment, 25 00:01:10.500 --> 00:01:13.590 they had to go and find it. And by the time I found it, it was 26 00:01:13.590 --> 00:01:16.530 too late. And I thought maybe I was the last person to know, but 27 00:01:16.530 --> 00:01:20.130 I put it out there. I asked them, I said, Is there any other 28 00:01:20.130 --> 00:01:22.290 way to comment? And their like, yeah, you can also email someone 29 00:01:22.290 --> 00:01:24.120 else. But they didn't tell me that I was wrong about the 30 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:28.350 deadline. And so I did write a quick blurb that I shared all 31 00:01:28.350 --> 00:01:30.600 over social media telling people It looks like the deadline has 32 00:01:30.600 --> 00:01:34.470 already passed. And, you know, it's unfortunate, but here, here 33 00:01:34.470 --> 00:01:37.050 were the people you were supposed to contact. And it 34 00:01:37.050 --> 00:01:39.990 turns out a bunch of other people were also caught off 35 00:01:39.990 --> 00:01:43.260 guard, just like me, they were waiting to find out how to 36 00:01:43.260 --> 00:01:46.230 comment standing by just thinking they were just going to 37 00:01:46.230 --> 00:01:47.820 get you know, it's government, thinking they were just gonna 38 00:01:47.820 --> 00:01:50.430 get around to and had it. And they're like, oh, no, that that 39 00:01:50.580 --> 00:01:54.540 that time came and went already. And I feel like that might have 40 00:01:54.540 --> 00:01:58.320 played a factor into what you said that there is now a delay, 41 00:01:58.650 --> 00:02:01.980 because I don't think anyone knew how they were supposed to 42 00:02:01.980 --> 00:02:04.230 comment. And they didn't have ample time to do it. So what 43 00:02:04.230 --> 00:02:09.960 happened is, the DFS extended the comment time to December 19. 44 00:02:10.290 --> 00:02:15.090 And it involves emailing someone at DFS, their information is on 45 00:02:15.090 --> 00:02:18.210 our site, you can search, I think, just DFS in a search bar, 46 00:02:18.210 --> 00:02:21.240 and the article should come up. And I think I even have the 47 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:24.150 email address of the person that you should be talking to where 48 00:02:24.150 --> 00:02:27.480 you can comment on the New York Commercial Financing Disclosure 49 00:02:27.480 --> 00:02:30.360 law, that's going to change everything, whether you do small 50 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:33.450 business lending, or merchant cash advance, or factoring, or 51 00:02:33.450 --> 00:02:33.930 whatever it is. 52 00:02:34.230 --> 00:02:35.520 Johny Fernandez: I think, at the end of the day, something that 53 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:38.010 we've been stressing about is that this is something that's 54 00:02:38.010 --> 00:02:41.010 gonna impact everyone, across the board. 55 00:02:41.130 --> 00:02:42.270 Sean Murray: Everyone's gonna be affected. 56 00:02:42.300 --> 00:02:43.530 Johny Fernandez: And I think a lot of people they are like, oh, 57 00:02:43.530 --> 00:02:46.350 like, is it gonna affect me? Do I follow like, whatever? Do I 58 00:02:46.350 --> 00:02:48.720 fall under this umbrella? And yeah, if you're in this space, 59 00:02:48.750 --> 00:02:51.780 it definitely does impact you. Yeah. So certainly something to 60 00:02:51.780 --> 00:02:55.920 keep your eye on. Whether, you know, you just want to get basic 61 00:02:55.920 --> 00:02:57.840 information, whether you want to comment, it's definitely 62 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:01.200 something to stress and look into. 63 00:03:01.320 --> 00:03:04.130 Sean Murray: And, you know, as Johny said, there is now a six 64 00:03:04.189 --> 00:03:07.936 month delay. So the way that the state is complying with the law 65 00:03:07.994 --> 00:03:11.156 statutorily is that it technically goes into effect on 66 00:03:11.215 --> 00:03:15.021 January 1, but you don't have to comply until six months after it 67 00:03:15.079 --> 00:03:18.299 goes into effect. So as of January 1, it looks like the 68 00:03:18.358 --> 00:03:21.871 rule will be final, no one will have any more say in it. And 69 00:03:21.930 --> 00:03:25.560 that six month period is not, it's not really even necessarily 70 00:03:25.618 --> 00:03:29.131 like oh, we're delaying the law, they're just giving you six 71 00:03:29.190 --> 00:03:32.996 months to prepare yourself to be fully compliant with it, because 72 00:03:33.054 --> 00:03:36.567 the gap between the comment period being closed, and the new 73 00:03:36.626 --> 00:03:40.256 year when it's supposed to go into effect, we're talking about 74 00:03:40.315 --> 00:03:43.828 12 days with Christmas and New Years in between, not a whole 75 00:03:43.886 --> 00:03:47.692 lot of time, if it's supposed to create a uniform disclosure, you 76 00:03:47.751 --> 00:03:51.498 know, and calculate all types of formulas. And so I think that's 77 00:03:51.557 --> 00:03:55.128 was was really the cause of the the date being six months out 78 00:03:55.187 --> 00:03:58.758 for when it goes into effect to comply. So we're all going to 79 00:03:58.817 --> 00:04:02.272 wait now for December 19, or a few days thereafter for when 80 00:04:02.330 --> 00:04:05.785 they will announce the final rule. But it's going to affect 81 00:04:05.843 --> 00:04:09.181 anyone who does business in Small Business Finance in the 82 00:04:09.239 --> 00:04:12.050 state of New York. It's something that if you do 83 00:04:12.108 --> 00:04:15.446 business in the state, you should probably go and look it 84 00:04:15.504 --> 00:04:18.842 up and comment if you feel confident in it or if you feel 85 00:04:18.900 --> 00:04:22.589 like it's going to affect your your business because it's going 86 00:04:22.647 --> 00:04:24.990 to go into effect in the middle of 2022. 87 00:04:24.990 --> 00:04:25.650 Johny Fernandez: Yup.