1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,520 Sean Murray: So we've been talking a lot about the New York 2 00:00:02,850 --> 00:00:05,850 Commercial Financing Disclosure law that's going into effect 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,810 supposed to go into effect on January 1, when they told us 4 00:00:09,810 --> 00:00:12,630 that they were fully intending to move forward with that date 5 00:00:12,660 --> 00:00:16,260 as written into the law itself. They told everyone that they 6 00:00:16,260 --> 00:00:19,290 basically have the option to at least give a comment before the 7 00:00:19,290 --> 00:00:25,350 final rule. Self is final. And they were like standby for 8 00:00:25,350 --> 00:00:28,260 information about how to comment and like everyone's like, okay, 9 00:00:28,260 --> 00:00:31,290 great, because a lot of people want to comment. And we were 10 00:00:31,290 --> 00:00:33,120 keeping an eye on how to do it, too. We wanted to make sure 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,630 everyone had that information. And by the time I personally 12 00:00:36,630 --> 00:00:39,510 found it, they said that the deadline had passed, the 13 00:00:39,510 --> 00:00:42,990 opportunity to comment had already passed. And I missed it 14 00:00:42,990 --> 00:00:45,090 by like, four or five days, by the time I found out how, you 15 00:00:45,090 --> 00:00:48,900 were supposed to comment. The deadline was over. And it was 16 00:00:48,900 --> 00:00:52,050 very obscure. You were supposed to email someone who was listed 17 00:00:52,050 --> 00:00:56,040 on the on the site. I'm like, oh, you know, and they didn't do 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,050 an announcement. You had to you had to find it. 19 00:00:58,110 --> 00:00:59,970 Johny Fernandez: And usually, you know, they said, they we're 20 00:00:59,970 --> 00:01:02,190 going to provide this information, and. 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,150 Sean Murray: Everyone was waiting. 22 00:01:03,690 --> 00:01:05,430 Johny Fernandez: Everyone's gonna be able to comment but. 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,410 Sean Murray: They didn't tell you. They didn't do any 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,290 secondary announcement. Like, here's, here's how you comment, 25 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:13,590 they had to go and find it. And by the time I found it, it was 26 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:16,530 too late. And I thought maybe I was the last person to know, but 27 00:01:16,530 --> 00:01:20,130 I put it out there. I asked them, I said, Is there any other 28 00:01:20,130 --> 00:01:22,290 way to comment? And their like, yeah, you can also email someone 29 00:01:22,290 --> 00:01:24,120 else. But they didn't tell me that I was wrong about the 30 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,350 deadline. And so I did write a quick blurb that I shared all 31 00:01:28,350 --> 00:01:30,600 over social media telling people It looks like the deadline has 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,470 already passed. And, you know, it's unfortunate, but here, here 33 00:01:34,470 --> 00:01:37,050 were the people you were supposed to contact. And it 34 00:01:37,050 --> 00:01:39,990 turns out a bunch of other people were also caught off 35 00:01:39,990 --> 00:01:43,260 guard, just like me, they were waiting to find out how to 36 00:01:43,260 --> 00:01:46,230 comment standing by just thinking they were just going to 37 00:01:46,230 --> 00:01:47,820 get you know, it's government, thinking they were just gonna 38 00:01:47,820 --> 00:01:50,430 get around to and had it. And they're like, oh, no, that that 39 00:01:50,580 --> 00:01:54,540 that time came and went already. And I feel like that might have 40 00:01:54,540 --> 00:01:58,320 played a factor into what you said that there is now a delay, 41 00:01:58,650 --> 00:02:01,980 because I don't think anyone knew how they were supposed to 42 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:04,230 comment. And they didn't have ample time to do it. So what 43 00:02:04,230 --> 00:02:09,960 happened is, the DFS extended the comment time to December 19. 44 00:02:10,290 --> 00:02:15,090 And it involves emailing someone at DFS, their information is on 45 00:02:15,090 --> 00:02:18,210 our site, you can search, I think, just DFS in a search bar, 46 00:02:18,210 --> 00:02:21,240 and the article should come up. And I think I even have the 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,150 email address of the person that you should be talking to where 48 00:02:24,150 --> 00:02:27,480 you can comment on the New York Commercial Financing Disclosure 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,360 law, that's going to change everything, whether you do small 50 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,450 business lending, or merchant cash advance, or factoring, or 51 00:02:33,450 --> 00:02:33,930 whatever it is. 52 00:02:34,230 --> 00:02:35,520 Johny Fernandez: I think, at the end of the day, something that 53 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,010 we've been stressing about is that this is something that's 54 00:02:38,010 --> 00:02:41,010 gonna impact everyone, across the board. 55 00:02:41,130 --> 00:02:42,270 Sean Murray: Everyone's gonna be affected. 56 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:43,530 Johny Fernandez: And I think a lot of people they are like, oh, 57 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:46,350 like, is it gonna affect me? Do I follow like, whatever? Do I 58 00:02:46,350 --> 00:02:48,720 fall under this umbrella? And yeah, if you're in this space, 59 00:02:48,750 --> 00:02:51,780 it definitely does impact you. Yeah. So certainly something to 60 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:55,920 keep your eye on. Whether, you know, you just want to get basic 61 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:57,840 information, whether you want to comment, it's definitely 62 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,200 something to stress and look into. 63 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,130 Sean Murray: And, you know, as Johny said, there is now a six 64 00:03:04,189 --> 00:03:07,936 month delay. So the way that the state is complying with the law 65 00:03:07,994 --> 00:03:11,156 statutorily is that it technically goes into effect on 66 00:03:11,215 --> 00:03:15,021 January 1, but you don't have to comply until six months after it 67 00:03:15,079 --> 00:03:18,299 goes into effect. So as of January 1, it looks like the 68 00:03:18,358 --> 00:03:21,871 rule will be final, no one will have any more say in it. And 69 00:03:21,930 --> 00:03:25,560 that six month period is not, it's not really even necessarily 70 00:03:25,618 --> 00:03:29,131 like oh, we're delaying the law, they're just giving you six 71 00:03:29,190 --> 00:03:32,996 months to prepare yourself to be fully compliant with it, because 72 00:03:33,054 --> 00:03:36,567 the gap between the comment period being closed, and the new 73 00:03:36,626 --> 00:03:40,256 year when it's supposed to go into effect, we're talking about 74 00:03:40,315 --> 00:03:43,828 12 days with Christmas and New Years in between, not a whole 75 00:03:43,886 --> 00:03:47,692 lot of time, if it's supposed to create a uniform disclosure, you 76 00:03:47,751 --> 00:03:51,498 know, and calculate all types of formulas. And so I think that's 77 00:03:51,557 --> 00:03:55,128 was was really the cause of the the date being six months out 78 00:03:55,187 --> 00:03:58,758 for when it goes into effect to comply. So we're all going to 79 00:03:58,817 --> 00:04:02,272 wait now for December 19, or a few days thereafter for when 80 00:04:02,330 --> 00:04:05,785 they will announce the final rule. But it's going to affect 81 00:04:05,843 --> 00:04:09,181 anyone who does business in Small Business Finance in the 82 00:04:09,239 --> 00:04:12,050 state of New York. It's something that if you do 83 00:04:12,108 --> 00:04:15,446 business in the state, you should probably go and look it 84 00:04:15,504 --> 00:04:18,842 up and comment if you feel confident in it or if you feel 85 00:04:18,900 --> 00:04:22,589 like it's going to affect your your business because it's going 86 00:04:22,647 --> 00:04:24,990 to go into effect in the middle of 2022. 87 00:04:24,990 --> 00:04:25,650 Johny Fernandez: Yup.