1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.220 Sean Murray: I want to ask you about the Puerto Rican market, 2 00:00:02.220 --> 00:00:04.500 because you mentioned it a few times. Right. And you I 3 00:00:04.500 --> 00:00:08.790 actually, this is this is not a coincidence. This is not a 4 00:00:08.790 --> 00:00:09.240 coincidence. 5 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:09.720 Sonia Alvelo: Yes, I love that. 6 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:13.950 Sean Murray: Yeah. Underneath my notes here, it's an article that 7 00:00:13.950 --> 00:00:17.370 you are you were cited it, you were put in the story. This is a 8 00:00:17.400 --> 00:00:21.270 deBanked magazine issue for what it is 2018, says it's back to 9 00:00:21.270 --> 00:00:23.370 business for alternative funding in Puerto Rico. 10 00:00:23.400 --> 00:00:23.640 Sonia Alvelo: Yeah. 11 00:00:23.880 --> 00:00:26.700 Sean Murray: So 2018 Sonia was mentioned in this particular 12 00:00:26.700 --> 00:00:27.180 story. 13 00:00:27.210 --> 00:00:27.630 Sonia Alvelo: Yeah. 14 00:00:27.660 --> 00:00:29.160 Sean Murray: And we've talked to you about the Puerto Rican 15 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:31.350 market over the years, a few times. 16 00:00:31.350 --> 00:00:33.870 Sonia Alvelo: Yes, three times you've been you know, I and 17 00:00:33.870 --> 00:00:39.360 thank you. That helped so many businesses, and they follow you, 18 00:00:39.360 --> 00:00:39.900 by the way. 19 00:00:40.470 --> 00:00:41.130 Sean Murray: In Puerto Rico? 20 00:00:41.160 --> 00:00:41.700 Sonia Alvelo: In Puerto Rico. 21 00:00:41.700 --> 00:00:42.200 Sean Murray: I have a following? 22 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:44.220 Sonia Alvelo: Yes, you got followers in Peurto Rico because 23 00:00:44.220 --> 00:00:47.580 you know, what they like, it's interesting, you know, 24 00:00:47.580 --> 00:00:49.860 everything that it's not only about Puerto Rico it's about 25 00:00:49.860 --> 00:00:53.940 everything else about you know, the industry. But this one, I do 26 00:00:53.940 --> 00:00:55.080 have it on my wall. 27 00:00:55.080 --> 00:00:55.080 Sonia Alvelo: I have it on my wall inside, yeah I got a lot of 28 00:00:55.160 --> 00:00:55.820 Sean Murray: You have it on the wall? 29 00:00:58.480 --> 00:01:01.330 things on my wall. But yes, you are on my wall, twice. 30 00:01:01.360 --> 00:01:01.840 Sean Murray: Twice, okay. 31 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:03.490 Sonia Alvelo: So you better come to my office and see about 32 00:01:03.490 --> 00:01:03.850 yourself, 33 00:01:03.870 --> 00:01:05.730 Sean Murray: Okay, we're gonna have to get this live stream on 34 00:01:05.730 --> 00:01:10.620 your wall. Yeah. All right, so to talk to me about Puerto Rico. 35 00:01:11.490 --> 00:01:15.690 So you, you were born and raised there, and you're doing business 36 00:01:15.690 --> 00:01:19.260 there, I imagine that requires you to go there to do business, 37 00:01:19.290 --> 00:01:19.860 is that right? 38 00:01:19.870 --> 00:01:25.960 Sonia Alvelo: Yes. I came to Connecticut, when I was 17, I 39 00:01:25.960 --> 00:01:29.710 believe, never moved out of Connecticut loved it, you know, 40 00:01:29.710 --> 00:01:32.740 I fell in love with the city with fell in love with 41 00:01:32.740 --> 00:01:38.320 everybody. Um, and when I started doing funding in Puerto 42 00:01:38.320 --> 00:01:43.330 Rico, I started doing business with that associations in Puerto 43 00:01:43.330 --> 00:01:46.270 Rico, let's say if it's a pharmacy, they have an 44 00:01:46.570 --> 00:01:50.590 associations for everything, every single industry. So my job 45 00:01:50.620 --> 00:01:54.280 at that time, I was like, okay, so instead of calling everybody, 46 00:01:54.910 --> 00:01:57.490 you know, it's impossible, you know, so I was like, you know, 47 00:01:57.490 --> 00:02:00.220 what, let me call the association. So I call those 48 00:02:00.220 --> 00:02:03.880 associations I, now I'm members with all of them. And believe it 49 00:02:03.880 --> 00:02:09.460 or not two of them, I'm the only the first one bit Latina 50 00:02:09.460 --> 00:02:14.140 business, but located outside of Puerto Rico, and they invite me 51 00:02:14.170 --> 00:02:16.840 to see the governor, they invite me to go different events. Oh, 52 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:18.100 my goodness, twice already. 53 00:02:18.130 --> 00:02:19.570 Sean Murray: You've taken advantage of this? 54 00:02:19.570 --> 00:02:21.970 Sonia Alvelo: Absolutely. Yeah I mean, they send me business and 55 00:02:21.970 --> 00:02:25.030 you know on special occasions, they always send an invite. So 56 00:02:25.210 --> 00:02:29.410 in the summer pre COVID, I used to travel probably four or five 57 00:02:29.410 --> 00:02:34.210 times a you know, between July and September. That's the 58 00:02:34.210 --> 00:02:38.110 convention time. And now, unfortunately, you know, it's 59 00:02:38.140 --> 00:02:41.560 online, but I can't wait for next year because that's, that's 60 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:45.100 where my money is. So yeah, but they still send me a lot of 61 00:02:45.100 --> 00:02:46.960 referrals. So yes, I travel a lot. 62 00:02:47.200 --> 00:02:49.780 Sean Murray: Okay, so who's funding the actual businesses 63 00:02:49.780 --> 00:02:53.650 there? Is it lenders and funders based in Puerto Rico? Or is it 64 00:02:53.650 --> 00:02:54.790 ones that are on the mainland? 65 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:56.520 Sonia Alvelo: From here. 66 00:02:56.760 --> 00:02:57.240 Sean Murray: From here. 67 00:02:57.270 --> 00:02:57.690 Sonia Alvelo: Yes. 68 00:02:57.720 --> 00:02:59.700 Sean Murray: Okay. Are there are there no lenders and funders in 69 00:02:59.700 --> 00:03:00.150 Puerto Rico? 70 00:03:00.150 --> 00:03:02.130 Sonia Alvelo: You know what just add that, you know what I'm 71 00:03:02.130 --> 00:03:07.830 gonna answer that to you in the next interview, because I do, I 72 00:03:07.830 --> 00:03:11.790 did receive an email really interesting, and I was in a 73 00:03:11.790 --> 00:03:16.980 conversation last night, and he may be a lender in Puerto Rico 74 00:03:17.010 --> 00:03:19.920 that wants to do business with Latin Financial, so that I can 75 00:03:20.220 --> 00:03:22.740 not tell right now that's news, news, so yeah. 76 00:03:23.050 --> 00:03:24.040 Sean Murray: I look forward to that one. 77 00:03:24.040 --> 00:03:25.420 Sonia Alvelo: I know you're gonna be the first one to tell 78 00:03:25.420 --> 00:03:25.480 you. 79 00:03:25.480 --> 00:03:27.850 Sean Murray: Okay. But that you have to sit through two hours of 80 00:03:27.850 --> 00:03:29.890 traffic again, to get back here and tell everybody. 81 00:03:29.920 --> 00:03:31.750 Sonia Alvelo: No, no, no, no, we ain't gonna assume that day. 82 00:03:31.780 --> 00:03:32.110 Sean Murray: Okay. 83 00:03:32.110 --> 00:03:32.530 Sonia Alvelo: Just kidding. 84 00:03:33.920 --> 00:03:36.348 Sean Murray: All right, so we're talking about lenders and 85 00:03:36.402 --> 00:03:39.640 funders based in the mainland who are funding the businesses 86 00:03:39.694 --> 00:03:42.663 in Puerto Rico. Now, the question I get all the time is 87 00:03:42.717 --> 00:03:46.009 who's funding there? So I get the sense that there's, there's 88 00:03:46.063 --> 00:03:49.139 a hesitance or resistance to funding businesses in Puerto 89 00:03:49.193 --> 00:03:52.270 Rico. And I wonder why that is? What's the aversion using 90 00:03:52.324 --> 00:03:55.616 countered to funding businesses in Puerto Rico? If you're not 91 00:03:55.670 --> 00:03:56.210 from here. 92 00:03:56.210 --> 00:03:59.613 Sonia Alvelo: No, it for some reason, you know, when I started 93 00:03:59.689 --> 00:04:04.306 in 2015, there was one lender who gave me the opportunity for 94 00:04:04.382 --> 00:04:08.772 some reason they have this this wrong information in their 95 00:04:08.848 --> 00:04:13.693 heads. The Latino businesses in Puerto Rico, they're under their 96 00:04:13.768 --> 00:04:18.613 own run the business the same as here in US they pay taxes, they 97 00:04:18.688 --> 00:04:20.430 do the same things. So. 98 00:04:20.430 --> 00:04:24.650 Sean Murray: There part of the United States. They're not a 99 00:04:24.650 --> 00:04:25.250 different country. 100 00:04:25.280 --> 00:04:26.180 Sonia Alvelo: No, not at all. 101 00:04:26.180 --> 00:04:26.480 Sean Murray: Okay. 102 00:04:26.960 --> 00:04:28.730 Sonia Alvelo: Oh, my goodness. I get that question. A lot. 103 00:04:28.760 --> 00:04:29.810 Sean Murray: Do you, do you really? 104 00:04:29.840 --> 00:04:32.420 Sonia Alvelo: Yes. Yes. It's incredible. Do you you know, do 105 00:04:32.420 --> 00:04:36.590 you do you need a green card? No, I'm part of the US. Wow. 106 00:04:36.650 --> 00:04:39.650 Okay, but that's for another segment. Okay. Yeah, that's a 107 00:04:39.650 --> 00:04:44.930 long but um, yeah, for some reason, they have this wrong 108 00:04:44.930 --> 00:04:47.420 information that you know, they don't run the business of, you 109 00:04:47.420 --> 00:04:51.710 know, any other business. So, I started in 2015. And I'm gonna 110 00:04:51.710 --> 00:04:56.720 say, Jordan, I love you. He did amazing. Jordan. From 111 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:57.170 Greenbacks. 112 00:04:57.200 --> 00:04:58.820 Sean Murray: Okay, I was like who's Jordan? 113 00:04:59.140 --> 00:05:03.190 Sonia Alvelo: He owes me one right now, but no, he, he took 114 00:05:03.190 --> 00:05:07.300 the chance with me. He, he wasn't easy. He said no, like, 115 00:05:07.300 --> 00:05:11.050 15 times. But I was like, give me give me give me the 116 00:05:11.050 --> 00:05:13.960 opportunity. Let me try it. And let me tell you, you know, it's 117 00:05:13.960 --> 00:05:16.600 still five years, six years later, we still together. 118 00:05:16.810 --> 00:05:18.610 Sean Murray: You're still funding deals out in Peurto 119 00:05:18.610 --> 00:05:18.730 Rico? 120 00:05:18.760 --> 00:05:19.600 Sonia Alvelo: Yeah, absolutely. 121 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:20.920 Sean Murray: It's worked. So it's worked out? 122 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:23.600 Sonia Alvelo: Yes. Okay. Oh, my goodness. Yes. He never stopped. 123 00:05:24.500 --> 00:05:27.380 There's been situations in Puerto Rico, obviously, Maria, 124 00:05:27.410 --> 00:05:32.540 the hurricane Maria. Earthquakes, COVID, obviously, 125 00:05:32.870 --> 00:05:37.220 and we always have a good communication, you know, send an 126 00:05:37.220 --> 00:05:39.740 email, hey, listen, we're going to have to do something, there's 127 00:05:39.740 --> 00:05:43.160 a hurricane coming. We're going to have a problem with the 128 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:47.180 payments. So it's the communication I think that word. 129 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:51.140 So and obviously other ones, but you're not going to say 130 00:05:51.140 --> 00:05:54.770 Greenbacks. And I can say, McKenzie, I love your band. So 131 00:05:54.770 --> 00:05:58.070 those are the two of you. But other ones, I'm not gonna 132 00:05:58.070 --> 00:06:00.770 mention it. Because, you know, I'm still waiting for offers not 133 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:01.520 not too happy. 134 00:06:02.400 --> 00:06:03.330 Sean Murray: Putting you on the spot. 135 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:06.450 Sonia Alvelo: No, not right now. But yeah, for some reason that 136 00:06:06.450 --> 00:06:10.440 was back in the day now, and thank you for your 137 00:06:10.500 --> 00:06:15.750 opportunities, because you're everything that you've wrote 138 00:06:15.750 --> 00:06:20.310 about Latin Financial in Puerto Rico, it did hit a few nerves, 139 00:06:20.340 --> 00:06:22.050 because I did call in good because. 140 00:06:23.370 --> 00:06:24.990 Sean Murray: I don't want to disrupt my following in Peurto 141 00:06:24.990 --> 00:06:25.110 Rico. 142 00:06:26.260 --> 00:06:27.910 Sonia Alvelo: You're okay, you're better now, because 143 00:06:27.910 --> 00:06:32.590 you're with me. But don't they, the lenders, they actually 144 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:35.650 called me after that, hey, listen, you know, what can we 145 00:06:35.650 --> 00:06:39.160 do? So it's a matter of opportunities, opportunities, 146 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:42.040 like this opportunities, you know, for the broker's sphere. I 147 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:43.840 can't wait, it's gonna be amazing. 148 00:06:44.760 --> 00:06:46.230 Sean Murray: I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you a little bit more about 149 00:06:46.230 --> 00:06:47.010 that at the end. 150 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:50.730 Sonia Alvelo: Oh, God, I did got drunk. I'm so sorry. No. 151 00:06:50.810 --> 00:06:53.060 Sean Murray: That's okay. That that's what it's all about 152 00:06:53.060 --> 00:06:54.500 having a good time. Right? Yeah. 153 00:06:54.530 --> 00:06:56.000 Sonia Alvelo: Oh, my God. Yes, I can't wait. 154 00:06:58.100 --> 00:07:01.160 Sean Murray: So you know, Puerto Rico, given that it has a lot 155 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:05.540 of, you know, weather related events, there are the lenders 156 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:08.090 and funders that you've worked with, have they been 157 00:07:08.090 --> 00:07:11.870 understanding when say a hurricane happens? Like, I think 158 00:07:11.870 --> 00:07:15.260 you mentioned like something about like, hey, you know, a 159 00:07:15.260 --> 00:07:17.450 hurricane's coming, we got to do something about the payments, 160 00:07:17.450 --> 00:07:20.030 like, what ,what is your experience been with, because if 161 00:07:20.060 --> 00:07:22.970 they're? If they're typically on the mainland, right? Are they 162 00:07:22.970 --> 00:07:26.300 understanding of the issues that happened there? Like a hurricane 163 00:07:26.300 --> 00:07:27.830 or earthquake? Or what have you experienced? 164 00:07:27.870 --> 00:07:31.410 Sonia Alvelo: I was really, really nervous when that 165 00:07:31.470 --> 00:07:38.280 happened at the beginning. 2016, 2017 was really hard. I was 166 00:07:38.280 --> 00:07:41.130 really, really nervous. I was like, how am I gonna do this? I 167 00:07:41.130 --> 00:07:44.460 mean, we talking about a lot of merchants, that they calling me 168 00:07:44.580 --> 00:07:50.130 and they are calling me. This is, this is the crazy thing it's 169 00:07:50.130 --> 00:07:53.160 happening, I'm here again in Puerto Rico, and both merchants 170 00:07:53.190 --> 00:07:57.660 are worried how am I going to pay this loan? You know, that's 171 00:07:57.660 --> 00:08:01.320 incredible. You know, and, you know, I'm there listening and 172 00:08:01.320 --> 00:08:04.050 saying, okay, let me let me handle this, let me contact the 173 00:08:04.050 --> 00:08:08.460 lender. So at the beginning, yes, I was super worried now I'm 174 00:08:08.460 --> 00:08:12.060 not, you know, things happen and you can control it, want to make 175 00:08:12.060 --> 00:08:15.870 sure that they are safe, that they okay, first. And my 176 00:08:15.870 --> 00:08:18.360 lenders, they're super understanding, I think we go 177 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:21.000 back to the communication, if you have a good communication 178 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:24.960 with them, Sean is not even a problem. Because they understand 179 00:08:24.960 --> 00:08:27.270 don't get me wrong, you know, when it's, you know, two weeks 180 00:08:27.300 --> 00:08:30.510 pass or a week later, I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna be on top of 181 00:08:30.510 --> 00:08:33.210 it. Right. And contact them and make sure that they have the 182 00:08:33.210 --> 00:08:36.270 power, you know, okay, so you back in business let's let's 183 00:08:36.330 --> 00:08:39.960 let's catch up paying. So is communication, I think that uh, 184 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.170 you know, if we, the lenders they should have more 185 00:08:43.170 --> 00:08:47.010 communications with all the brokers, it should be a better 186 00:08:47.010 --> 00:08:51.000 way to do business, you know, so I do have it, and I'm welcome 187 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.690 new lenders, as long as we have a good communication, some other 188 00:08:54.690 --> 00:08:57.480 brokers or lenders, they don't get along, for whatever reasons. 189 00:08:57.990 --> 00:09:02.220 But you know, hello. But, you know, I am happy with the ones 190 00:09:02.220 --> 00:09:05.400 that I have. So as long as they give me their problems, I'm 191 00:09:05.400 --> 00:09:05.760 fine. 192 00:09:06.140 --> 00:09:08.180 Sean Murray: What about the banks down there? Because we 193 00:09:08.180 --> 00:09:10.910 talk about how in the US, you know, banks aren't lending and 194 00:09:10.910 --> 00:09:12.710 not lending to small business but what's the relationship? 195 00:09:12.710 --> 00:09:13.970 Traditional funding, yeah. What's the what's the 196 00:09:13.970 --> 00:09:16.010 relationship you know, the traditional lending relationship 197 00:09:16.010 --> 00:09:16.490 down in Peurto Rico? 198 00:09:16.490 --> 00:09:17.600 Sonia Alvelo: They don't they don't want to they don't want to 199 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:20.240 lend that they don't have the money. Peurto Rico is not in a 200 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:23.450 good situation. They know about companies like us and don't get 201 00:09:23.450 --> 00:09:29.210 me wrong, they try to mimic the programs but it's not gonna it's 202 00:09:29.210 --> 00:09:32.720 not gonna work. It got lenders like a banks from over there, 203 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:35.720 Sonia, God, you know, oh, my goodness, this lesson Oh, my 204 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:38.840 merchants they coming, you know, and they declining, then? 205 00:09:40.610 --> 00:09:41.630 Sean Murray: The banks don't have the money. 206 00:09:41.630 --> 00:09:44.097 Sonia Alvelo: They just either don't have the money or they 207 00:09:44.154 --> 00:09:47.476 don't wanna lend the money. Wow, okay. No, and people that 208 00:09:47.533 --> 00:09:50.340 they've been 20, 40 years and they don't want to. 209 00:09:50.430 --> 00:09:52.160 Sean Murray: They won't to it. They won't lend they haven't. 210 00:09:52.370 --> 00:09:54.170 They've had a relationship that long and still won't do it. 211 00:09:54.170 --> 00:09:55.910 Sonia Alvelo: I don't know what you know, it's a shift right 212 00:09:55.910 --> 00:09:59.120 now. Yeah. Wish I would know and the things that I know I cannot 213 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:03.890 say right now. I got invitations you know pending so you know so 214 00:10:03.890 --> 00:10:08.000 I unfortunately they're going through they need us they need 215 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:11.750 companies like ours for like Latin Financial they need Latin 216 00:10:11.750 --> 00:10:15.350 Financial and that's it to help them, yeah