1 00:00:00.330 --> 00:00:04.020 Sean Murray: Datamerch.com is a database of essentially the 2 00:00:04.020 --> 00:00:07.020 deals that have gone bad. These are small business finance 3 00:00:07.020 --> 00:00:10.950 deals, could be an MCA, could be a business loan, one or the 4 00:00:10.950 --> 00:00:13.530 other and what people do is that, if you're a member, you 5 00:00:13.530 --> 00:00:17.130 can submit deals that defaulted. Typically, if they breached the 6 00:00:17.130 --> 00:00:20.250 contract or committed fraud, I don't think it's for deals that 7 00:00:20.250 --> 00:00:23.400 just naturally, you know, like, didn't perform. But if there was 8 00:00:23.400 --> 00:00:25.980 some type of, you know, breach of the agreement, or some type 9 00:00:25.980 --> 00:00:29.520 of fraud or something like that, you can actually submit that 10 00:00:29.550 --> 00:00:33.270 that data to Datamerch.com if you're a member of it, and the 11 00:00:33.270 --> 00:00:36.240 benefit of that, is that other members are doing the same 12 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:40.230 thing. Yeah. And that, before you fund any deal, you can type 13 00:00:40.230 --> 00:00:43.980 in some information, and it will tell you if anything bad 14 00:00:43.980 --> 00:00:47.700 happened with another member. Yeah. And DataMerch has now 15 00:00:47.700 --> 00:00:52.410 amassed 50,000 records in their in their database. Yeah. 16 00:00:52.410 --> 00:00:55.540 Johny Fernandez: That's a lot. It's cool. And it's also good to 17 00:00:55.540 --> 00:00:59.260 know, because if, you know, just generally doing business, with 18 00:00:59.260 --> 00:01:02.770 people in the industry, people in business, etc, you sometimes 19 00:01:02.770 --> 00:01:05.110 you don't know, you know, you have to do your due diligence to 20 00:01:05.140 --> 00:01:08.080 really know who you're really doing business with. So 21 00:01:08.080 --> 00:01:11.680 sometimes Google doesn't give you the exact, you know, 22 00:01:11.740 --> 00:01:15.310 information that you need the google.com. And, you know, I 23 00:01:15.310 --> 00:01:17.260 think a website like this is definitely something useful, 24 00:01:17.260 --> 00:01:20.560 cause it's definitely, you know, it'll give you insight that 25 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:24.100 maybe not everyone else has, and things that you can't always 26 00:01:24.100 --> 00:01:25.030 find online. 27 00:01:25.030 --> 00:01:27.472 Sean Murray: Yeah, yeah, I think there are pros and cons to 28 00:01:27.525 --> 00:01:30.883 certain products. And one of the cons, technically, for funders 29 00:01:30.936 --> 00:01:33.975 in the small business finance industry is that deals that 30 00:01:34.028 --> 00:01:37.066 don't perform or defaulted, go bad, or breach or fraud or 31 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:40.585 whatever, they don't necessarily get reported to a credit bureau. 32 00:01:40.638 --> 00:01:43.889 So if you're checking someone's credit, you're like, oh, they 33 00:01:43.943 --> 00:01:46.928 have good credit. But you might not have known that they 34 00:01:46.981 --> 00:01:50.019 defrauded a competitor, like there's nowhere to there was 35 00:01:50.073 --> 00:01:53.164 nowhere to search for that prior. So you're kind of acting 36 00:01:53.218 --> 00:01:56.256 on some kind of leap of faith, by double checking all the 37 00:01:56.309 --> 00:01:59.295 information that you have, without being able to without 38 00:01:59.348 --> 00:02:02.386 being able to know how they performed with somebody else. 39 00:02:02.440 --> 00:02:05.638 When you're dealing with like consumer credit, you can check 40 00:02:05.691 --> 00:02:08.623 the credit report and say, you know, they're six months 41 00:02:08.676 --> 00:02:11.821 delinquent on their Bank of America credit card, right. And 42 00:02:11.874 --> 00:02:15.126 not only is it reflected in the score, but you could actually 43 00:02:15.179 --> 00:02:18.644 see the credit line and see that they're a certain amount of time 44 00:02:18.698 --> 00:02:21.843 behind on payments. But you can't do that in small business 45 00:02:21.896 --> 00:02:24.668 finance, for the most part, loans can be reported to 46 00:02:24.721 --> 00:02:27.919 business credit bureau, not everyone is really checking the, 47 00:02:27.973 --> 00:02:30.904 you know, business credit reports. And so DataMerch has 48 00:02:30.958 --> 00:02:34.263 really provided a very valuable service. They're not the first 49 00:02:34.316 --> 00:02:37.567 people or the first company to come up with that type of that 50 00:02:37.621 --> 00:02:40.393 type of idea. Prior to data, DataMerch, there was an 51 00:02:40.446 --> 00:02:43.591 organization called the Small Business Finance Association, 52 00:02:43.644 --> 00:02:47.109 it's still around, actually. And they had their own database. And 53 00:02:47.162 --> 00:02:50.627 if you were a member of that the trade association, if you were a 54 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:53.879 member of the trade association, or if you are a member of a 55 00:02:53.932 --> 00:02:56.597 trade association, you get access to a database of 56 00:02:56.651 --> 00:02:59.796 defaulted deals, and it works the same way, members of that 57 00:02:59.849 --> 00:03:02.834 association could submit deals that defaulted. And other 58 00:03:02.887 --> 00:03:06.299 members can check it, you know, before they fund the business to 59 00:03:06.352 --> 00:03:09.764 find out if this is somebody who has defaulted on somebody else, 60 00:03:09.817 --> 00:03:13.175 but it's limited to people who are members of that trade group. 61 00:03:13.228 --> 00:03:16.587 And so if you're not a member of the trade group, you know, you 62 00:03:16.640 --> 00:03:19.892 miss out and so DataMerch, even though it costs money to be a 63 00:03:19.945 --> 00:03:23.143 member, it is it is open to a wider audience. You don't have 64 00:03:23.196 --> 00:03:26.661 to be a member of a trade group. But yeah, it's it's it's amazing 65 00:03:26.715 --> 00:03:29.860 to see how much they've grown. They started like, five, six 66 00:03:29.913 --> 00:03:33.324 years ago. And to think that, to think that they now have 50,000 67 00:03:33.378 --> 00:03:36.150 bad deals on file. Yeah. That's a pretty big number. 68 00:03:36.180 --> 00:03:38.700 Johny Fernandez: That is a big number. And I think, you know, 69 00:03:38.700 --> 00:03:41.640 we've talked about before, especially for people that are 70 00:03:41.640 --> 00:03:44.280 new to the industry and you know, are trying to figure out 71 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:47.730 how to do deals and make sure they do deals correctly and do 72 00:03:47.730 --> 00:03:50.910 their due diligence. This is definitely a smart investment. I 73 00:03:50.910 --> 00:03:54.150 would think, you know, when you're trying to find just who 74 00:03:54.150 --> 00:03:55.920 you're working with, so