1 00:00:00.329 --> 00:00:04.049 Sean Murray: deBanked content is genuine. We do not have the 2 00:00:04.049 --> 00:00:08.789 business model of advertorials, where you can pay to be in a 3 00:00:08.789 --> 00:00:11.909 story or you can pay us to feature you or profile you. 4 00:00:11.909 --> 00:00:14.519 Yeah, we've actually never done that. Yeah. And we've had, we've 5 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:17.729 had a lot of people approached us to do that. Because it turns 6 00:00:17.729 --> 00:00:20.069 out, it's a pretty common business model for other media 7 00:00:20.069 --> 00:00:23.429 outlets, where you could say, you know, let me pay you this 8 00:00:23.429 --> 00:00:28.379 amount of money, do a feature on me. And the media outlet, you 9 00:00:28.379 --> 00:00:32.549 know, they're able to kind of wipe your hands clean by putting 10 00:00:32.549 --> 00:00:36.479 the word paid advertisement at the top even though it's styled 11 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:40.319 like a story. Yeah. Right. And there, I guess, banking on 12 00:00:40.349 --> 00:00:44.579 people not knowing the difference. Yeah. And I guess it 13 00:00:44.579 --> 00:00:48.839 works with, you know, both ways. We've never done that. And the 14 00:00:48.839 --> 00:00:52.889 reason I posted it, though, on LinkedIn was, we've had a few 15 00:00:52.889 --> 00:00:57.689 people. And on Facebook, whatever social media speculate 16 00:00:57.689 --> 00:01:00.749 that some of the stories we've created, they wanted, they're 17 00:01:00.749 --> 00:01:03.779 trying to figure out, how much did these people pay you to get 18 00:01:03.779 --> 00:01:06.659 into that? deBanked story? Yeah, they were convinced. Yeah. 19 00:01:06.689 --> 00:01:10.049 Right. They couldn't believe that we would post genuine 20 00:01:10.049 --> 00:01:12.719 content other because it maybe they didn't like the subject. 21 00:01:12.809 --> 00:01:15.359 Yeah. Or they didn't feel the subject was important enough. I 22 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:17.459 don't I don't know what you know, where it comes from? Yeah. 23 00:01:18.659 --> 00:01:23.159 But they really, you know, there's this thought that if 24 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:25.709 somebody is willing to pay, we will just post it on the site. 25 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:30.329 We just won't do that. And, and, you know, I don't think I don't 26 00:01:30.329 --> 00:01:32.639 think we'll ever do that. Yeah, I think the secret to our 27 00:01:32.639 --> 00:01:34.529 success has been creating genuine content. 28 00:01:35.070 --> 00:01:35.400 Johny Fernandez: Yeah. 29 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:39.840 Sean Murray: And sometimes we'll get the comment that you really 30 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:44.280 should do a story about this person, or this company, or that 31 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:46.770 or this or that. And we're always looking for what's the 32 00:01:46.770 --> 00:01:50.580 story element of anything. So we profiled someone you're like, 33 00:01:51.570 --> 00:01:52.290 what, you know, what 34 00:01:52.290 --> 00:01:52.830 do they do? 35 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:56.470 Why that right? It's probably because there's something unique 36 00:01:56.650 --> 00:01:59.350 about their life, or what they did in business, or it's 37 00:01:59.350 --> 00:02:03.130 relevant to a story we're trying to tell at the time. Yeah, 38 00:02:03.130 --> 00:02:07.600 right. And so I think when people are looking at, you know, 39 00:02:07.630 --> 00:02:11.320 why, there's, there's always some sort of reason not for 40 00:02:11.320 --> 00:02:14.920 profit, but we're in the business of telling stories. And 41 00:02:14.920 --> 00:02:18.400 so, you know, that's, that's what we we go out there. And, 42 00:02:18.430 --> 00:02:23.650 and try to tell. And by the way, sometimes when people ask, how 43 00:02:23.650 --> 00:02:27.310 come I'm not in the story, you could be, all you have to do is 44 00:02:27.310 --> 00:02:30.430 reach out to us, it's as easy as that doesn't mean we're going to 45 00:02:30.430 --> 00:02:33.640 write about you. In fact, we do decide not to write about a lot 46 00:02:33.640 --> 00:02:35.860 of different things. Yeah, right. And just because you have 47 00:02:35.860 --> 00:02:37.900 a company, just because you're starting up, doesn't mean we're 48 00:02:37.900 --> 00:02:39.970 going to write about it. Yeah. But if you had something truly 49 00:02:39.970 --> 00:02:43.210 unique and different, I don't just mean like a lower cost 50 00:02:43.420 --> 00:02:47.260 product, or you're building a technology, that something truly 51 00:02:47.530 --> 00:02:51.070 different, we may be interested in it. Or if you have a life 52 00:02:51.070 --> 00:02:54.670 story, that's interesting, tell us, maybe we want to tell it. 53 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:58.210 But if you don't talk to us, then we're never going to know 54 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:00.580 you. And we're not going to write about it. Because we also 55 00:03:00.580 --> 00:03:04.960 have to verify the things that we write about. And so if 56 00:03:04.990 --> 00:03:07.360 someone else recommends you, when we talk to this person, 57 00:03:07.390 --> 00:03:09.880 that person or the person who you recommended, doesn't want to 58 00:03:09.880 --> 00:03:11.410 talk to us, we're not going to write it. 59 00:03:12.890 --> 00:03:14.990 Johny Fernandez: And it's it's something awesome to point out 60 00:03:14.990 --> 00:03:19.520 that if people reach out to us like today, we may hold on to 61 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.030 that and use it sometime in the future, like not necessarily, 62 00:03:23.210 --> 00:03:25.580 you know, this month or next month, but when we have 63 00:03:25.580 --> 00:03:29.030 something that's related to that topic, or that person, we can 64 00:03:29.030 --> 00:03:33.140 use it, you know, have it in our folder and use it when it's 65 00:03:33.140 --> 00:03:37.190 necessary. So it's interesting, like people always have this 66 00:03:37.190 --> 00:03:39.260 concept that like, oh, man, like, if I reach out to them 67 00:03:39.260 --> 00:03:42.770 today, we may be highlighted tomorrow, and a store will come 68 00:03:42.770 --> 00:03:45.500 out on us. But no, it's a process. And people have to 69 00:03:45.500 --> 00:03:48.290 understand that at the end of the day, you know, they might 70 00:03:48.290 --> 00:03:53.780 not be used now. But it's always in our system. And we can pull 71 00:03:53.780 --> 00:03:56.690 it out and say, Hey, you know, we'd love to hear from you. We'd 72 00:03:56.690 --> 00:03:59.360 love to profile this person. And yeah. 73 00:03:59.480 --> 00:04:01.460 Sean Murray: Yeah, I mean, it could literally take two or 74 00:04:01.460 --> 00:04:03.800 three months, from the time we've interviewed you to the 75 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:07.160 time we use it in a story. That's not uncommon. So if we, 76 00:04:07.160 --> 00:04:09.590 if we talk to you today, and there's nothing about you today, 77 00:04:09.650 --> 00:04:12.350 it doesn't mean we're not going to use it. It might mean that, 78 00:04:12.440 --> 00:04:16.610 but it also could mean that we've got a good spot for things 79 00:04:16.610 --> 00:04:19.640 you've said to be in a story that we're working on. And it 80 00:04:19.640 --> 00:04:22.520 could have come about in like, you know, two to three months. 81 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.820 There's also the, you know, the issue of, we'll be working on 82 00:04:25.820 --> 00:04:29.750 stories, and we're ready to getting ready to put them out. 83 00:04:30.170 --> 00:04:34.700 And we try to fact check, basically everything right? So 84 00:04:34.700 --> 00:04:37.820 we have stories die at the finish line, where it's been 85 00:04:37.820 --> 00:04:40.700 written, it's been proof read, and then we go when we do a 86 00:04:40.700 --> 00:04:44.660 quick little check of certain facts, and we realize we can't 87 00:04:44.660 --> 00:04:49.280 run the story. Something is wrong. Something is easily 88 00:04:49.280 --> 00:04:53.930 disproven. The moral character of the person, something, 89 00:04:53.930 --> 00:04:56.840 whatever it is, and we decide that we can't run the story. 90 00:04:57.710 --> 00:05:00.590 That's sometimes that explains why there's no story. Worry, you 91 00:05:00.590 --> 00:05:03.440 know, every, you know, every single day is because we did 92 00:05:03.440 --> 00:05:07.070 have a queue of content lined up. And when it gets to the, you 93 00:05:07.070 --> 00:05:09.110 know, the fact checking we do fact checking throughout, but 94 00:05:09.500 --> 00:05:13.070 there's always that last bit of fact checking and it can call 95 00:05:13.070 --> 00:05:17.090 the story to, to get killed. So it's kind of a bummer. But in 96 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:19.430 you know, in real journalism, you can't just publish 97 00:05:19.430 --> 00:05:22.790 everything that's out there. Right. And the old days of 98 00:05:22.790 --> 00:05:25.010 Gawker, I don't know, I don't know if you guys out there 99 00:05:25.010 --> 00:05:28.640 remember Gawker, but their whole thing was just publish, and just 100 00:05:28.670 --> 00:05:31.820 worry about it later. And mainly because their, their subjects 101 00:05:31.820 --> 00:05:34.070 were celebrities. And so he could basically say whatever you 102 00:05:34.070 --> 00:05:39.380 want, that's what they thought anyway. But we have a lot of 103 00:05:39.380 --> 00:05:42.410 content that we work hard on, that ends up not going anywhere. 104 00:05:42.440 --> 00:05:44.420 That's that's a bummer. But that's just the way it is right? 105 00:05:44.420 --> 00:05:46.640 We're trying to put out the most accurate, informative and 106 00:05:46.640 --> 00:05:49.070 entertaining information that we can. 107 00:05:49.070 --> 00:05:52.810 Johny Fernandez: Yeah. So please reach out to us. Don't be 108 00:05:52.810 --> 00:05:53.230 scared. 109 00:05:53.500 --> 00:05:55.180 Sean Murray: info@debanked.com 110 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:55.780 Johny Fernandez: There you go.