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Sean Murray: The Bachelor star
who is getting PPP money. You

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know, when I first read it, it
was written as if it was a

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scandal, I think it was written
and this was published by a lot

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of different news outlets. And I
think it was kind of written in

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sort of like, as if it was a
scandal that that had been found

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out, and that these people had
done something wrong. That's

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that's the impression that they
were trying to create that the

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money was supposed to go to
struggling business owners,

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however, these celebrity TV
stars, they took advantage of it

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too, as if you know, they were
bad. I think that's a, you know,

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a little bit misguided, to be
honest with you, I don't know if

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whether or not they were
entitled to take the money cause

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I don't know their actual
business, underlying business,

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right. But just because somebody
is famous or on TV, doesn't mean

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that their business is
ineligible for for PPP money. In

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fact, this type of thing came up
a lot. In the very beginning.

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There were there were numerous
companies with kind of, I guess,

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questionable, moral business,
you know, moral businesses or

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whatever. And the debate became
whether or not they should get

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it versus someone else. And I
think at the end of the day,

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people said, it's really not
about, you know, whether or not

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we morally support a business,
or whether or not someone is

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famous or not, it's about
whether or not they're eligible

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based upon the statute.
Everybody kind of suffered, it's

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hard for them to go in and, and
and, and evaluate literally

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millions of businesses on their
own individual merits, you do

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have to fill out like, you know,
an ad an attestation, that you

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are eligible or not. So assuming
they follow the guidelines, and

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were truthful about it. I don't
see anything, honestly see

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anything wrong with it. Yeah. I
get why it's, I get why it makes

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for good, compelling news. You
know what I mean, because you

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know, they're famous, right. But
I don't think that necessarily

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translates into wealth, some of
the comments I read online on

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social media. I went on to like
Reddit and Twitter to see what

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people were saying. And there
was this impression that these

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people are all
multimillionaires. And I don't

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think that's the case, I don't
think I don't think that fame

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equals money. I think that's a
false impression that people

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get, I think that's why you get
all these people who want to be

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YouTube stars and TikTok stars,
they think that if you're just

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once you reach a certain level
of fame, you're just

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automatically a millionaire.
Yeah. And hey, even if they are

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millionaires, it doesn't mean
they were not eligible for PPP,

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PPP money. So as long as they
did everything on the up and up,

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I don't think there's anything
wrong with it. It's, I was kind

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of disappointed that I didn't
think to check the bachelors

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stars to see if they were on the
PPP list, because this database

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came out, end of last year, and
we could have easily have gone

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in and typed in the names. But
we didn't. So you know,

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unfortunately, the mainstream
press beat us to the story, but

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it's kind of a non story.

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Johny Fernandez: Yeah. Yeah. And
I think the fact that she has an

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LLC, so it is, you know,
categorized as a small business.

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It's not like she took the
money, you know, under herself,

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like, she has, you know, a small
business, a corporation, however

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you want to frame it, or however
she refers to it as. So I do

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think that, you know, like you
said, a lot of people think fame

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equals money. And that isn't
always accurate. Yeah. And, you

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know, sometimes these
celebrities, just some of these

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people in general they need,
they need the help. Whether she

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needed it or not, but she did
it. And, you know, it is what it

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is. I mean, I believe that, you
know, she falled under the LLC.

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I don't see anything wrong with
that. But again, people could

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probably say otherwise.

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Sean Murray: Yeah, you know, the
only thing the only part I

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thought was a little unusual was
that a representative for her

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had told TMZ that she used the
money to hire someone suggesting

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that she didn't have any
employees before. But thanks to

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this money, she was able to then
bring someone on my

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understanding is that it wasn't
about expanding your business

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and taking money to grow and
start adding people that you

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were supposed to use the money
for people that were already on

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and you were supposed to retro
actively look at your your

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payroll numbers, and that's how
much you would qualify for and

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then use that to keep keep the
payroll on so I thought it was a

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little weird that she it was it
was suggested that she use it to

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start hiring like oh, I'm gonna
use this to expand my business.

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Yeah. I don't really think it
was for that but I don't know

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all the details and I definitely
don't think there's enough there

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to say that she did anything
wrong. It is you know, it's it's

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a story. I enjoyed reading it
but I think it's a non scandal scandal.

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Johny Fernandez: Yeah, I agree.
I agree with you. And again,

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we're big fans can't wait for
Monday, at eight o'clock. So

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definitely be tuning in.

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Sean Murray: Okay, yeah you
gotta tune into deBanked TV and

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the bachelor apparently.