1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.930 Allyson Berger: Yeah, well, our reporter, our reporter, your 2 00:00:03.930 --> 00:00:08.370 reporter, Kevin Travers, recently spoke with Patrick La 3 00:00:08.370 --> 00:00:12.480 Brash, because he's French Canadian, of Canadian financial 4 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:15.690 and spoke to him about his door to door selling, which I could 5 00:00:15.690 --> 00:00:20.250 relate to so much. Because when I was first out of college, you 6 00:00:20.250 --> 00:00:23.610 know, I was doing cold calls, I was walking into businesses 7 00:00:23.610 --> 00:00:28.950 trying to, you know, get my name out there, meet people. And I 8 00:00:28.950 --> 00:00:32.430 think people miss that human interaction. And there's so much 9 00:00:32.430 --> 00:00:35.670 you learn about yourself and the product you're selling, when you 10 00:00:35.670 --> 00:00:41.040 do that door to door selling, like Patrick was saying, and I 11 00:00:41.040 --> 00:00:45.480 think as much as these online presentations and interactions 12 00:00:45.480 --> 00:00:48.990 have increased over the pandemic, I think nothing 13 00:00:48.990 --> 00:00:52.380 compares to that human interaction. And people want 14 00:00:52.380 --> 00:00:57.330 that, again, you want to put a face to a name and to a product. 15 00:00:57.330 --> 00:01:01.140 And I think it has hopes in coming back. 16 00:01:01.210 --> 00:01:03.250 Sean Murray: Yeah, well, it's interesting that they were still 17 00:01:03.250 --> 00:01:05.680 doing it during the pandemic. Right. Because when I was 18 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:09.070 talking, I was, I talked to them briefly before Kevin, you know, 19 00:01:09.070 --> 00:01:12.910 did the story, and I got to do a little due diligence, you know. 20 00:01:12.940 --> 00:01:16.750 Yeah. Editors work every now and then. And I was shocked to hear 21 00:01:16.750 --> 00:01:19.150 that they were doing it also during the pandemic was, I 22 00:01:19.150 --> 00:01:21.730 think, kind of the one of the birthing points for the story 23 00:01:21.730 --> 00:01:25.150 itself. And the you know, they had to wear the mask and 24 00:01:25.150 --> 00:01:28.690 everything. And like you said, people were just excited to see 25 00:01:28.690 --> 00:01:33.040 somebody, but I think they raise another interesting idea, in 26 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:36.070 that when the world is has gotten so caught up in 27 00:01:36.070 --> 00:01:40.270 technology and automation, and all that stuff, that doing 28 00:01:40.270 --> 00:01:43.720 something that it's you know, old fashioned all this, if 29 00:01:43.720 --> 00:01:46.030 you're the only one doing it, you can create a real 30 00:01:46.030 --> 00:01:49.090 competitive edge. In doing it. Definitely. It's kind of like in 31 00:01:49.090 --> 00:01:52.210 the age of like digital news. If you do something in print, and 32 00:01:52.210 --> 00:01:54.880 you're the only one who's in print, you can carve out a 33 00:01:54.880 --> 00:01:58.060 little, you know, a little niche for yourself. And for those out 34 00:01:58.060 --> 00:02:02.770 there who don't think that you can sell business loans door to 35 00:02:02.770 --> 00:02:05.860 door that that's like a weird thing to do. This is actually 36 00:02:05.860 --> 00:02:09.670 how it used to work. At least when I got into the business. 37 00:02:09.880 --> 00:02:12.070 There were telemarketing companies that would go and 38 00:02:12.100 --> 00:02:15.910 pitch these products. But when I was an underwriter back in 39 00:02:16.180 --> 00:02:17.560 literally 15 years ago. 40 00:02:17.650 --> 00:02:18.850 Allyson Berger: Well, don't date yourself. 41 00:02:18.850 --> 00:02:19.170 That's where you found phone numbers. Okay. The Yellow Pages 42 00:02:19.170 --> 00:02:23.011 Sean Murray: Okay yeah. A year ago. You know, back when I was 43 00:02:23.098 --> 00:02:28.313 15. There were sales partners who relied entirely on door to 44 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:33.528 door sales and made quite a bit of money doing it. And they 45 00:02:33.615 --> 00:02:38.743 would they use the the Yellow Pages, and they would use the 46 00:02:38.830 --> 00:02:39.960 Yellow Pages. 47 00:02:44.550 --> 00:02:49.140 Showing my age. Let's talk about what the Yellow Pages are first. 48 00:02:50.530 --> 00:02:52.780 Allyson Berger: So funny. Yeah, people don't know about that. 49 00:02:52.780 --> 00:02:55.390 Sean Murray: There were these things called the Yellow Pages, 50 00:02:55.390 --> 00:02:58.750 they were actually yellow and that had numbers and names on 51 00:02:58.750 --> 00:03:01.420 them. But they would call up local businesses in the 52 00:03:01.420 --> 00:03:03.880 neighborhood and schedule an appointment and say, hey, I'm 53 00:03:03.880 --> 00:03:06.520 going to come see you at two o'clock. We're going to talk 54 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:10.210 about your finances or whatever. And people would say, okay, you 55 00:03:10.210 --> 00:03:13.420 know, I hear what you have to say. And it's not like they just 56 00:03:13.450 --> 00:03:16.210 walked up randomly. They were scheduling appointments, right? 57 00:03:16.450 --> 00:03:19.300 And then they would go and they would actually get a lot of the 58 00:03:19.300 --> 00:03:22.330 paperwork in. And a lot of times the documents that we were 59 00:03:22.330 --> 00:03:25.660 getting, they weren't sent by email or portals. They were 60 00:03:25.690 --> 00:03:28.840 bringing the paperwork to our office and handing it to me. 61 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:31.390 Yeah. And I'm like, and they're like, oh, by the way, this guy 62 00:03:31.390 --> 00:03:34.030 really needs his papers back like tomorrow. So if you could 63 00:03:34.030 --> 00:03:36.190 photocopy them real quick, I'm like, these are the original 64 00:03:36.190 --> 00:03:39.970 bank statements. This is his only bank statement. And it 65 00:03:39.970 --> 00:03:44.560 worked. And then I think, I don't know why that has not been 66 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:47.260 used anymore. I think everyone got so hyped up on, it's all 67 00:03:47.260 --> 00:03:50.590 about scale. And you need to create a scalable business, and 68 00:03:50.590 --> 00:03:53.290 you need to do something that's going to 10 extra self and 100 69 00:03:53.290 --> 00:03:56.800 extra self, to make a billion dollars, and we got all caught 70 00:03:56.800 --> 00:04:00.340 up in that. And we just forgot about it. But at this company in 71 00:04:00.340 --> 00:04:05.230 Canada is proving Canadian Financial, although it's Canada, 72 00:04:05.290 --> 00:04:09.040 I think there's a lot of similarities in the culture. And 73 00:04:09.040 --> 00:04:12.430 I think that they're probably onto something. And for anyone 74 00:04:12.430 --> 00:04:15.730 out there thinking about how to differentiate themselves. This 75 00:04:15.730 --> 00:04:18.820 could be something that should be on your radar, at the very 76 00:04:18.820 --> 00:04:19.300 least. 77 00:04:19.780 --> 00:04:22.600 Allyson Berger: I mean, they're being a trendsetter. I think 78 00:04:24.010 --> 00:04:26.920 people are keeping up with the trends and you know, they want 79 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.400 to keep up with technology. So they're acclimating their 80 00:04:30.400 --> 00:04:33.430 business technique to what's available out there, but I don't 81 00:04:33.430 --> 00:04:39.460 think anything can measure up to that human interaction of a 82 00:04:39.460 --> 00:04:42.820 sales meeting and talking to someone face to face. I mean, 83 00:04:42.820 --> 00:04:45.880 even if you think about it, people are have been doing Zooms 84 00:04:45.880 --> 00:04:49.780 because they want to see your face. They want to see how 85 00:04:49.780 --> 00:04:53.920 you're reacting to what I'm saying. And that body language 86 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.860 and I think it's interesting, I think depending on who you have 87 00:04:57.250 --> 00:05:00.340 a Zoom meeting with generation wise, you know, maybe they don't 88 00:05:00.340 --> 00:05:03.220 want to do the video call aspect. And then maybe more of 89 00:05:03.220 --> 00:05:06.610 the old school people involved. They want to see your face 90 00:05:06.610 --> 00:05:08.950 because they want to see how you're reacting to what I'm 91 00:05:08.950 --> 00:05:13.450 saying. So I know how to sell my product next. It's all very 92 00:05:13.450 --> 00:05:16.570 interesting. And they're definitely doing the right thing 93 00:05:16.570 --> 00:05:19.960 by getting out there. And it's great that they've been able to 94 00:05:19.960 --> 00:05:23.230 keep doing it throughout this year. For sure, for sure. And 95 00:05:23.410 --> 00:05:27.010 Patrick, I think, and him and him and his his colleagues and 96 00:05:27.010 --> 00:05:31.450 employees are tuning in today. So, bonjour, mon ami. 97 00:05:32.350 --> 00:05:33.610 Sean Murray: I, hello. 98 00:05:33.630 --> 00:05:36.660 Allyson Berger: Yeah, that just means hello, my friends. In 99 00:05:36.660 --> 00:05:39.930 French. You know, we have to keep it open to our French 100 00:05:39.930 --> 00:05:43.440 Canadian viewers. But it was just it was a great article. 101 00:05:43.440 --> 00:05:47.550 And, you know, it's great to see that coming back. I mean, do you 102 00:05:47.550 --> 00:05:49.830 think it's here to stay like, will it come back, door to door 103 00:05:49.830 --> 00:05:50.220 selling? 104 00:05:50.730 --> 00:05:53.580 Sean Murray: Well, I think that they're kind of, they're putting 105 00:05:53.580 --> 00:05:57.540 it back into the mix, I think I think it was forgotten about. I 106 00:05:57.540 --> 00:06:00.060 don't think anyone who was doing it anymore. And I think that was 107 00:06:00.060 --> 00:06:03.300 part of why the story was so unique, is that not only are 108 00:06:03.300 --> 00:06:06.840 they doing it, but it's kind of a secret to success. And I think 109 00:06:06.840 --> 00:06:10.140 in in this you know day and age, this period, how do you compete 110 00:06:10.140 --> 00:06:13.080 against, we've talked about the funding buttons all all the 111 00:06:13.080 --> 00:06:16.170 automation, where you can just press a button. And here's this 112 00:06:16.170 --> 00:06:19.110 company proving that if you just come in and talk to somebody, 113 00:06:20.700 --> 00:06:24.210 you're you're creating something that the tech companies are just 114 00:06:24.210 --> 00:06:27.360 never going to have. So I think it's almost like a like a new 115 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:30.240 thing that could come back rather than like whether or not 116 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.010 it's going to like, you know, fade away or. 117 00:06:32.100 --> 00:06:33.450 Allyson Berger: Yeah, it's like vintage. 118 00:06:33.450 --> 00:06:34.230 Sean Murray: Yeah, it is