1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.060 Johny Fernandez: We did find out that Enova is pleased with the OnDeck acquisition, that's something that we have been talking about. And now it's 2 00:00:06.060 --> 00:00:16.290 looking to divest ODX, OnDeck Canada, and OnDeck Australia. So these are big moves, obviously with Enova making. So making this move. So go ahead 3 00:00:16.290 --> 00:00:23.580 and walk us through like, number one, like the why it's doing this, why it's doing something, you know, obviously, it looks like they're going to 4 00:00:23.580 --> 00:00:26.610 go ahead and kind of split things. 5 00:00:27.530 --> 00:00:35.540 Sean Murray: Sure, yeah. And I haven't talked to Enova or OnDeck about this. I learned the way that many other people learn, I learned through 6 00:00:35.540 --> 00:00:46.550 their earnings call, which was last week. And they kind of just mentioned it, they probably said two sentences about each. They said they wanted to 7 00:00:46.550 --> 00:00:56.300 divest ODX that that OnDeck had some pretty important bank clients that they signed up. But that ultimately it wasn't really a moneymaker, it 8 00:00:56.300 --> 00:01:05.750 seemed more like a vanity play and a PR stunt than it was a real business. And then they also mentioned that they wanted to, quote unquote, monetize 9 00:01:06.080 --> 00:01:14.750 OnDeck Canada and onDeck, Australia. And they did it in the same breath as talking about divesting ODX. So I took that to mean that they also want to 10 00:01:14.750 --> 00:01:26.390 sell OnDeck Canada and Australia. And but what they explained, it's not that those branches didn't make money or weren't viable. I think they 11 00:01:26.390 --> 00:01:35.390 actually said that they were viable in their respective markets, but that they were too small. And Enova, such a big company that I think that it 12 00:01:35.390 --> 00:01:44.300 would be a distraction to manage a market that is too small for them. I was kind of surprised to hear that Canada would be considered a distraction or 13 00:01:44.300 --> 00:01:53.180 too small for them. Australia, I totally understood. And that's because Australia is so far away. It's a very small market, Australia. Tiny. And 14 00:01:53.510 --> 00:02:04.370 it's so far away. And it takes a lot of time and effort to really manage that market. But if you're going to manage it remotely from the US, or at 15 00:02:04.370 --> 00:02:13.880 least oversee it, you're going to have to spend time in Australia, it's like a whole day flight, you lose a day just by going two days, it costs a 16 00:02:13.880 --> 00:02:21.380 whole lot of money to go there. I'm sure Enova could afford it. But the market is so small to spend all this time and all this energy and resources 17 00:02:21.380 --> 00:02:29.870 on that market, I can understand why they would want to split that off. Canada was I was kind of surprised about but this is all part of the the 18 00:02:29.870 --> 00:02:40.100 post acquisition kind of phase of a deal. And so it really doesn't really send any signal about you know, what they think about OnDeck, I think 19 00:02:40.130 --> 00:02:47.060 ultimately this was going to be their plan anyway, they acquired OnDeck, they're looking to shed the parts that don't really fit into their model. 20 00:02:47.810 --> 00:02:57.860 I've seen numerous former employees of OnDeck announced their their departures from OnDeck on on LinkedIn. And, you know, the fact that they're 21 00:02:57.890 --> 00:03:02.120 going to divest what doesn't make sense, is just, you know, a normal part of the business. 22 00:03:02.870 --> 00:03:10.010 Johny Fernandez: Awesome. So like in for futures, you know, when do you think this kind of will fully take place? Like how long do you think the 23 00:03:10.010 --> 00:03:13.670 process is gonna be for them to actually fulfill this? 24 00:03:14.650 --> 00:03:21.310 Sean Murray: Um, you know, that's a great question. If I was an investment banker, I'd probably have a better answer for you on that, you know, I'm 25 00:03:21.310 --> 00:03:30.370 not privy to any of the conversations. And then revealing that in their earnings call may suggest that they've been talking about it for quite a 26 00:03:30.370 --> 00:03:39.430 while. And you know, nobody had been pursuing it that it wasn't like they just started. These things could take a while to do. I think that there's 27 00:03:39.430 --> 00:03:47.950 going to be a lot of interested buyers, at least for OnDeck. Canada, I don't know about ODX and I don't really know about Australia, but I know 28 00:03:47.950 --> 00:03:58.960 that there was a pretty strong interest in acquiring OnDeck Canada's operations just from feedback I've gotten on our announcement of our story 29 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:08.230 about OnDeck or that move. So possibly by the end of the year, but it's really hard to say